question about multitimbral use
question about multitimbral use
ok - I have v-synth setup in cubase and I can schange programs on each channel with a mouse click - and it all saves! - now I'd like to manipulate each of my 16 patches at the ocs level - but when I turn the ocs1 time, formant, or pitch knobs for channels other than 1, the time, formant, or pitch changes the patch on the channel I want, but Its also changing the parameter on channel 1! - Evwen though I'm not SENDING on channel 1 - I read the book and I've turned off local and remote switches. How can I channelize my tweaks so that I can send the turn of each knob to specific channels w/ out effecting patches on other channels? This will be extremely useful for me - can I tweak cosm1 and 2 on each channel seperately - cause I heard I can only use these on ch.1 - is there a workaround if that's the case? - can I send each patch to say, cosm1/2? - Thanks guys
Re: question about multitimbral use
Wait for RajaJuju to quote paragraphs from the manual, his copying and pasting skills are very impressive 
In my opinion, multitimbral doesn't work as well as it should. As a thought, do you have Remote Keyboard set to ON? That will make part 1 respond no matter what midi channel (and corresponding part) is being triggered. Also, is the midi channel on part 1 the same as the midi channel of the part you want to control?
If neither of these are happening, then accept that multi-timbral is not as useful as you would like it to be.
BF
In my opinion, multitimbral doesn't work as well as it should. As a thought, do you have Remote Keyboard set to ON? That will make part 1 respond no matter what midi channel (and corresponding part) is being triggered. Also, is the midi channel on part 1 the same as the midi channel of the part you want to control?
If neither of these are happening, then accept that multi-timbral is not as useful as you would like it to be.
BF
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I think we all need to understand how the VSynth claims to be multitimbral. The VSynth has the neat trick of being able to select a structure based on the incoming note or midi channel. Its changing the structure - but not the effect settings - for each individual note message on the fly.
Selecting the structure on the note number is the trick which allows the rhythm kits of V2 to work.
Selecting the structure on the midi channel which matches an enabled part allows the VSynth to behave much like a multitimbral synth does. A part's only purpose is to say "if its this midi channel, then use this structure", but that's all it does. It still uses the common settings of part 1. And most importantly, the front panel controls are set to change part 1.
It acts like its multitimbral, which is an indication of its clever design. To make it fully multitimbral would be too much of a change and then someone is going to ask why it doesn' have general midi presets. Now that I understand what it is doing I can acknowledge its uses, even though I won't be using it in my set up. I don't want it to be 'improved', its fine as it is. I may have a use for playing difference structures at the same time, and when that happens I will use parts and midi channels to do it.
B
Selecting the structure on the note number is the trick which allows the rhythm kits of V2 to work.
Selecting the structure on the midi channel which matches an enabled part allows the VSynth to behave much like a multitimbral synth does. A part's only purpose is to say "if its this midi channel, then use this structure", but that's all it does. It still uses the common settings of part 1. And most importantly, the front panel controls are set to change part 1.
It acts like its multitimbral, which is an indication of its clever design. To make it fully multitimbral would be too much of a change and then someone is going to ask why it doesn' have general midi presets. Now that I understand what it is doing I can acknowledge its uses, even though I won't be using it in my set up. I don't want it to be 'improved', its fine as it is. I may have a use for playing difference structures at the same time, and when that happens I will use parts and midi channels to do it.
B
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I finally have goten over the whole thing about it not having full multitmbral dedication... and thud ave been using th keyboard for what it was intended for.... insane sound creation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm leaning this thing inside out rather than fighting with it and putting up futile resistance. It is the last piece of gear I will ever part with!
there is so much that makes up for its lack of being multitimbral... this thing is so unrealistic... its like engineering the DNA of waveforms and sound...
Well I'll be your huckleberry....
there is so much that makes up for its lack of being multitimbral... this thing is so unrealistic... its like engineering the DNA of waveforms and sound...
Well I'll be your huckleberry....
say what! LivePSY - what are you talking about
think we all need to understand how the VSynth claims to be multitimbral. The "VSynth has the neat trick of being able to select a structure based on the incoming note" - what - structure changing in terms of incoming note - what does this have to do with the v-synths multiimbral operation man - are you saying that my difficulty in being able to edit ALL perameters on ALL 16 parts other than ch 1 can be solved by structure changes per note per chanel? - please give more detailed insight on how I can adjust ALL perameters that I can on ch1, on all other channels as well - thanks My biggest issue is that the v-synth patches during multitimbral operation is this - I can for example, twist certain knobs while sending midi via channels other than 1, and the patch on chanell 1 frikin changes
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anti_pulse
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Re: question about multitimbral use
make sure you dont have anything set on omni mode...
Well I'll be your huckleberry....
Well I'll be your huckleberry....
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anti_pulse
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delete...nevermind this post
good last point there
That's why I'm creating a cubase patch script this weekend.
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cool.
i'm working on the same thing. I;m creating a midi device map for cubase sx3 where i can control the most important parameters. However, this is hard en a lot of work because of all the sysex parameters. So if you are finished on your script could you share it with us?
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i'm working on the same thing. I;m creating a midi device map for cubase sx3 where i can control the most important parameters. However, this is hard en a lot of work because of all the sysex parameters. So if you are finished on your script could you share it with us?
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Hey if you guys make a patch script hook me up !