Classic Models Mentioned

[theshine]

https://www.smstrumentimusicali.it/repo ... jHCKQfNQSo

Looks like extra models have been confirmed for the Fantom... no info on when these will be released though.... also multisampling mentioned. :-)

(JX-8P, JUNO 106, JP-8 etc.. I have a feeling these will be along the lines of the amazing ACB technlogy from Roland Cloud)

[Chrisk-K]

Fantastic. The models are the ones already included in the Jupiter-X. Does this mean that the Fantom can create the same VA tones as the Jupiter-X?

[danx]

Mmm.... I´m start to be a little exceptical about this.
The reason is that adding those models to Fantom could have a negative impact in Jupiter X-XM sales.
I´m afraid Roland wants you to buy Fantom AND Jupiter,not only one of those.

My two cents.

[kday]

https://www.smstrumentimusicali.it/repo ... jHCKQfNQSo

Looks like extra models have been confirmed for the Fantom... no info on when these will be released though.... also multisampling mentioned. :-)

(JX-8P, JUNO 106, JP-8 etc.. I have a feeling these will be along the lines of the amazing ACB technlogy from Roland Cloud)

No multi-sampling mentioned. Just the ability to import sound libraries maybe to the keys which still sucks to someone like me that has a Fantom X that does actually sample.

But we'll see...maybe they will add sampling to the keyboard or maybe they'll give us the middle finger like Yamaha did with the Montage.

[Per]

How do you mean? The Montage has very robust multisampling.

[kday]

How do you mean? The Montage has very robust multisampling.

It doesn't sample.

You can load samples possibly but not sample them. Multi-sampling is multi sampling sounds or instruments. If it doesn't sample, then sampling should be taken out of the phrase.

[Per]

How do you mean? The Montage has very robust multisampling.

It doesn't sample.

You can load samples possibly but not sample them. Multi-sampling is multi sampling sounds or instruments. If it doesn't sample, then sampling should be taken out of the phrase.

Fair enough but the Montage is still in a better position than the Fantom in terms of sounds and flexibility.

It also has been supported since launch with several large OS updates, with the number one feature request (sequencer) just added. I can only hope that Roland will support the Fantom half as well because if they don't they're shooting themselves in the foot, the hardware is there (outside of the joke shop pads and broken aftertouch) and that's the thing you want a big return on, software should be easy.

[theshine]

How do you mean? The Montage has very robust multisampling.

It doesn't sample.

You can load samples possibly but not sample them. Multi-sampling is multi sampling sounds or instruments. If it doesn't sample, then sampling should be taken out of the phrase.

Fair enough but the Montage is still in a better position than the Fantom in terms of sounds and flexibility.

It also has been supported since launch with several large OS updates, with the number one feature request (sequencer) just added. I can only hope that Roland will support the Fantom half as well because if they don't they're shooting themselves in the foot, the hardware is there (outside of the joke shop pads and broken aftertouch) and that's the thing you want a big return on, software should be easy.

Really? Nah Yamaha have provided basically two updates.... the first decent update one had a spirilzer effect and some other effect I'd never use, some bug fixes but not much else. The second update had the sequencer yes, and some filters and a few other workarounds for the average midi implementation,... but really not large updates... I really hope Roland do WAY better than that with updates.

I think Yamaha did a good job when they brought the Montage to the public, as it was probably much closer to its full potential than the Fantom is... we are all waiting for news on OS updates/soundbanks but we aware of the state of the instrument when we bought it, which still does some amazing things as it is....

Fingers crossed for new stuff from Roland soon....

[Chrisk-K]

If the Fantom sells well, Roland will support it. Although I can buy a Fantom right now, I'm not in a hurry and will wait. I personally avoid to buy first generation hardware stuff.

[BillySynth]

i have cash for Fantom...I am waiting for updates first...see what comes...I want full V Piano same as original V Piano

vas

[anotherscott]

Mmm.... I´m start to be a little exceptical about this.
The reason is that adding those models to Fantom could have a negative impact in Jupiter X-XM sales.
I´m afraid Roland wants you to buy Fantom AND Jupiter,not only one of those.

Or they could offer the same classic emulations in both, where the Jupiter gives you more dedicated hands on control and a lower price, while the Fantom provides a lot more in the way of other features.

No multi-sampling mentioned. Just the ability to import sound libraries maybe to the keys which still sucks to someone like me that has a Fantom X that does actually sample.

I think most people would rather do the actual sampling on the computer than on the keyboard (or at least are content to do so). As long as you can load the final product into your Fantom and play your custom multi-sampled sounds from its keys, I think most people who are talking about wanting multisampling in the Fantom will be quite happy.