Page 176 in the user manual is useless. Please help!!!

[Indykeys]

In trying to make song patterns I'm getting nowhere then my last previously detailed post about the weird "step record" screen.

Again for edification, from the mixer screen I hit song edit. From there I hit pattern F2. From their choosing patterns one through 100, I hit record. I then hit step record after Setting my parameters and choosing patterns one through 100 on the record track. I can then hit Step record which takes me to a step record standby screen. From here my pattern track is recognized and I can either hit note or play to start recording within the previously set parameters. This takes me to that weird step recording screen but I didn't like so much as previously mentioned in the above mentioned post.

Just to be clear, is it the step recording from this strange step recording screen that makes a pattern within that song file? Or is there yet something that I'm not doing because that is as close as I can come.

[Indykeys]

Aww, are postwar intersecting in time. Yes I can get that to happen.

[Indykeys]

I have just created a rhythm track in this manner. Pattern one

[howardS]

You're right, it seems our posts crossed each other...he he.

Ok, so now you need to save your pattern as PTN001. So when you are in step 4 and try to select a pattern you should see that PTN001 is no longer an empty pattern.

[Indykeys]

Yes. So is this the assignment? Is it assigned? Is there way to get this thing into a song at this point?

[howardS]

It is in the song. It is now in track 1 of the song. If you hit the play button then track 1 will call the pattern that you created. You can place that pattern at different parts of your song by using step recording.

[Indykeys]

And it will always be in that same track? Why did pattern one go to track one? Where would pattern 100 go?

[howardS]

You can step record the patterns to any of tracks 1 - 16, not just track 1. You can also place any of patterns 1 - 100 anywhere in any of those tracks. So you can place in pattern 1, the 2, then 4 then 3...whatever suits you.

[Indykeys]

So here's what I see immediately from what we've just done tonight: I could record musical phrases or I can record rhythm phrases into those pattern presets. I can do this via step recording or I can do this live. Once I have all the patterns I need to complete a song I can then place them in time where I need them via the step recorder i.e.: I can make the Start point only the next measure after the measure I just recorded or even a previous measure but can put the Start point anywhere within that measure. I haven't done this yet but I think I see the overall of the project.

[howardS]

That's how I see it, Indykeys.

[Indykeys]

Oh it's morning now I'm going to try this that we've talked about last night. Thanks Howard S for your help so far I kind of fell off to sleep after the last postings - last night was pretty late

[howardS]

Ok, good luck with it. Let me know how it works out for you.

[Indykeys]

Okay! That was what I needed to know. Thank you HowardS - you save me from a jam. Roland should be ashamed of itself for making that so difficult. That was such an important piece of the puzzle that the floodgates have open for me today - have been going crazy on this thing. I'm going to start another thread separate from this thread that explains step-by-step the process that you go through to assign these rhythm patterns to these phrase tracks.

[howardS]

Oh, that's great, Indykeys. As I said in my first post on this, I don't assign patterns to phrase tracks so I just read all the steps on page 176 when I initially tried it and it worked right away. I guess I had the advantage of having previously used patterns in song files so I knew what they were talking about right away. I think the confusing thing here is that the manual refers to several things as patterns. Anyhow, I am glad to have helped you through it and that the floodgates have opened! Good luck and post any other questions that you have on your X8.