so is G dead already or in agony?

[delirium]

Just sorry to see what's happening to roland, I regret now I didn't keep fantom X.
I still prefer logic of work flow on fantom X then on motif XF, M3 or kronos.
I am very curious what roland will do with this mess now...
anyway R.I.P. G.

[BrianJ]

??? What's this post all about anyway??? Do you not like your Fantom G? I've just bought a G8 for my home studio and I love it...I don't understand what you think is wrong with it??? I'm confused...

[Quinnx.]

For anyone that has a one and uses it well, the G is most certainly not dead.
as far as roland is concerned yes.. they have abandoned any further development unless namm brings OS 2
after that.. 2011 closes rolands chapter for the G..

The G as has many more years in it for making music and needs no more than its got to allow anyone to
achieve what they need..
Owners should just keep making music using the G and not feel its any less an instrument just because roland has ceased development of its architecture.
I for one am not phased in the least by rolands lack of interest in the G.
it will serve me for many years to come.

[V-CeeOh]

Just sorry to see what's happening to roland, I regret now I didn't keep fantom X.
I still prefer logic of work flow on fantom X then on motif XF, M3 or kronos.
I am very curious what roland will do with this mess now...
anyway R.I.P. G.

This is a really funny post delirium. :-DDD

[Vlad_77]

It is interesting that not only in Roland Clan but in other fora as well people have regretted selling their X. I kept mine and to be honest, I think that the X is not anywhere CLOSE to being "obsolete." That being said, I DO know that many G owners are happy with the axe and making great music.

Thing is, Roland is playing catch up. Yamaha ALSO took a step backward in a sense with the XF. But, Kurzweil PC3x (NOT the "LE" editions which are shite) as a SYNTH blows the G, X, and Motif away. Roland has another worry too: Kronos.

ARX has such GREAT potential and I am completely mystified as to why Roland did not develop it. ARX could have been what Kronos promises to be. I have not bought a Korg since the Wavestation EX. I am mainly a Roland and Kurzweil guy. But, if the Kronos CAN do what is promised, then Korg gets my cash.

Note: I am not slamming the G. I had wanted to buy one IF ARX had actually come of age. Alas, it seems that this will not happen.

I hope Roland has something amazing in the works because the imminent Kronos and the K3000 could very well hurt Roland - and Yamaha for that matter.

Best,
Vlad

[manishkurup]

To each his own (synth ;)). I have seen the yamahas and the korgs of the world, and played around with them even. Yeah, the Kronos is cool - but I wouldnt get one (have the M3, and serves me well enough). I'm very happy with my X - never went to the G, because I never needed to.

Musically - between my X, my mac, and my new Virus (which I got for a steal) - I think I can pretty much achieve anything I put my mind to :). Im sure there are those who can do the same with any synth of their choice - it's the human, not the instrument, you know?

My X is my live synth - wouldn't leave home without it - __UNSURPASSED__ live performance features. IMO the G's the same way (with its quirks) - but comparing the G, X, the Kronos or an M3 with a PC/MAC based DAW workflow, and expecting it to outperform or even come close, is pretty unrealistic and IMHO a sure-fire path to disappointment ;).

If my X was stolen or broke-down (God-forbid) - I would buy the G in a flash (even now - given all it's short-comings), but that's just me. I have little use for the stupid little arpeggio's and rhythm patterns that the Yamahas and Korgs come pre-loaded with - heck - I just cook my own. I don't think it'll be a big deal to adjust to the G's different and slightly-broken work-flow (if it ever comes to this). Big screens are OK (my Mac has a BIGGER one) - my Virus has a tiny little one - but it kicks ass sound-wise, and that's all I'm looking for ;).

My 2c ;) - I dont think the G's dead - it'll be back in some form or the other. Saying this again - there's a lot of potential with this platform - hope it'll be realized soon enough.

;) Manish.

[Dorkas]

With 24 STEREO audio tracks the Fantom G is still yeras ahead of its time. Kronos not. What a great pleasure to have a G.

Fantom G8 / Motif XS rack / VP 770 /Plug-ins linked on

[Atlas5]

The only agony from my G is caused by my playing, not Roland's fickle business model.

I have a new Kronos 61 on order.

I am thinking of selling my Fantom X7 and Motif XS6 (and maybe a JP8000) to finance a new Motif XF7

I am keeping the M3 and the PC361.

I love my Virus Snow, wish I could afford upgrading to a TI Virus Keyboard.

The only thing that's going to stop me from buying keyboards is death.

[Quinnx.]

I have a new Kronos 61 on order.

I understand the slight attraction..
But if you do already have a G would it be more prudent to spend that money and maybe less on plugins for your computer? and get the same if not better results?
Im kinda attracted to it myself, but then i have to step back and see that this only once again locks you into a proprietary platform where as using a computer can be alot more flexible.

What exactly is the attraction to spend such large amounts on a platform whats value diminishes as soon as you hand over your cash?

[apex]

The only agony from my G is caused by my playing, not Roland's fickle business model.

I have a new Kronos 61 on order.

I am thinking of selling my Fantom X7 and Motif XS6 (and maybe a JP8000) to finance a new Motif XF7

I am keeping the M3 and the PC361.

I love my Virus Snow, wish I could afford upgrading to a TI Virus Keyboard.

The only thing that's going to stop me from buying keyboards is death.

If I were you I'd sell the m3 and the xs6 in order to buy the xf.... why do you think you need the m3 and the kronos?

[apex]

I have a new Kronos 61 on order.

I understand the slight attraction..
But if you do already have a G would it be more prudent to spend that money and maybe less on plugins for your computer? and get the same if not better results?
Im kinda attracted to it myself, but then i have to step back and see that this only once again locks you into a proprietary platform where as using a computer can be alot more flexible.

What exactly is the attraction to spend such large amounts on a platform whats value diminishes as soon as you hand over your cash?

what value do you gain from a computer that gets outdated? as well as the plugins being run on it?... and also if he is selling hardware to fund purchase for more hardware... is he losing anything?

[Quinnx.]

what value do you gain from a computer that gets outdated?

if your computer is a dedicated DAW
Why would it suddenly become out dated?

do your plugins stop working?
Its more likely the workstation becomes outdated quicker given that you can change nothing on it
unlike the computer which has the flexibility to change or update everything if you so wish..
and with a little forward planning you can build a computer DAW that will be miles ahead of any static workstation for a lot less and your production levels are much higher too..

Some people dont like fan noise or any computer noise in their area..
my solution.. is put the computer in an adjacent room and route cables to your quite room.

[delirium]

some of you guys I see have KMS, keyboard mania syndrome - the newest the better, more is better but playing skills...not important.... :))))

[Atlas5]

"KMS"? I aint got no Neumann "KMS" microphones. Oops, I have G.A.S. does not have to always be a keyboard, I love all things musical.

[Atlas5]

Computers are for spreadsheets & word documents and maybe surfing the web.

Keyboards'/synth's are for playing music. Workstations are for playing & sequencing.

I only use the computer for editing/mastering (Peak) my music and then cataloging (iTunes) my music collection.