William Coakleys Grand Piano..Coming to the Fantom G

[jjdpro]

To all FG owners who need a very good grand (onboard), I talked with William Coakley of Coakly designs. I asked if he had one of his great sample grands for the Fantom G, and he stated that the FG version was almost complete and should be available in early 2011.

I anyone does not know of his work, his pianos can be heard in Enoniqs MR modules like the MR range, and may other other. They have a rich, true sound. And, they sound great in recorded and Live applications..So, wit this bit of news, I'll hang on to my FG7 a bit longer now that I'll have a really nice Grand Piano.
http://williamcoakley.com/flash.html

[dutchman]

oh that would be great when there would be a good sounding piano on th fantom g
i think all the piano sounds are not so good...when i hear the piano sound from a motif i always regret that i have taken the fantom g instead of the motif...dammnit

[jjdpro]

I would put the Coaley Pianos right at the sonic level as the Motif ES. I think the new Motif XS is a step up. However, I think version V of the Coakley's Pianos will be right there or better. So, I'm excited. This will make me keep my FG7 a bit longer at least.

[kenchan]

yah, but does the FG offer any sympathetic resonance simulation?
and how long is that thing going to take to load up?

i prefer supernatural piano's if roland releases a ARX-Piano. ive pretty much played all sorts of digital piano's and the biggest downside with most regular sampled piano is the obvious velocity layers you can hear and no sympathtic resonance. i guess on the non-weighted keys people aren't really picky.

i think nord's piano is the best velocity layered version to date. the sympathetic resonance can blend the various nuances...but the dynamics on the high registeres is limited.

for seamless velocity layered piano's (minus full modeled piano's) i prefer the RD700NX and CP1's piano samples. soooo much smoother to play.

i think boricaroland's piano's are pretty damn good for our FG's.

[gospelone]

boricausa's piano's? ...

Where are these pianos?

Quickly please show me the way to boricausa's piano's i must hear them

[apex]

Here's a link to the thread gospelone.

not sure where in there the download link is... but it's there somewhere

http://forums.rolandclan.com/index.php?action=show_thre...

[emenelton]

I owned The Perfect Piano V when I had my X. With headphones it had a very vibraphone sort of vibe, very high quality sampling and programing. It seemed he used only one or two layers but made extensive use of the programable vcf's and vca's. There was no discernable velocity switching or stretching. I used it live a few times and it did the job. My only criticism was a lack of attack/bite to it's envelope.

[mojkarma]

Regarding the sonic quality and the comparison with a motif es:
if it's going to sound like a motif es (stock piano), then I would consider this as a compliment. There is nothing wrong with the motif es piano, but it certainly is nothing special. I wouldn't say that the stock piano in the fantom g is inferior compared to that piano.
Also I don't see how William Coakley could implement sympathetic resonance into his piano patch. There are only two ways to do it. Either by using a pfx, and it's there in the FG. Unfortunately it lacks an eq and therefor limits the sound for further sonically adjusting, or by using pedal down samples. Maybe there is a way I'm not aware of, but I don't see how one could program a patch on the FG to use pedal down samples while the sustain pedal is pressed.
Anyway, the best solution would be an arx card. William Coackley can provide a piano multisample for the FG, but for well known reasons I don't see how I could import that multisample into my existing project.

[emenelton]

The X has an effect called sympathetic resonance for pianos' - doesn't it?

[jjdpro]

From : W Coakley email to me:

The Fantom G has a different format than the X and so Volume 5 will not work in the G series. We have contacted Roland and we believe we will eventually be re-formatting 5 for the G and adding a new piano 256 megs.

[thextreme1]

This is good to hear... though... too little, to late for me. The Fantom is in dire need of some good piano sounds and I am glad for everyone else. I just couldnt wait any longer.

Someone post a song using these pianos, after they release. I would love to hear them.

[apex]

extreme... you sold your G? because it didn't have good pianos? can I ask what you are using now?

[quebec88]

Personally, this was the one area that I never liked on the G. This is good news to hear I guess. I like the piano on the ES and XS much better than any of the stock ones from the Fantom G. This is just my opinion.

[thextreme1]

"extreme... you sold your G? because it didn't have good pianos? can I ask what you are using now? "

Yea, I hated to... but it was really limiting my creativity... Pianos are a staple in a lot of my music, without great piano sounds, I am like a bird in flight without wings... On top of that, in fear we are on the eve of a new NAMM announcement in favor of a new model... I decided to sell, while I could still get most of my money back... which I did... -$100.

I am now using a Open Labs XXL. 20,000+ gorgeous sounds built in, with more just a software purchase away. I was turned on to it by Michael Jacksons keyboard player. It is everything I wanted the G to be and more. Basically, a rolling, portable, complete studio in a 46 pound package. Being able to have an entire studio on the road with you... is worth its weight in gold.

I may buy a G8 in the future, for a controller.... but only when the price drops dramatically(talking sub $1000 range).

[mojkarma]

"I may buy a G8 in the future, for a controller.... but only when the price drops dramatically(talking sub $1000 range)"

Regarding the Open Labs,
if it serves you so well, I don't see a reason to wait for any new announcement from Roland at winter namm.
For the controller part, you could by a dedicated midi controller right now, instead for waiting that the Fantom G8 (which is not a controller in first place) drops in price.
You have a strange strategy in choosing your tools.