MEGA MIX! Is there any plans at Roland of Japan to implement this feature in a new OS for the MC 909 & MC 808? What I don't understand is why Roland ever decided to do away with this feature. I thought {mega mix} was a a great feature and it should be implemented ASAP on both units.
I would think that many Roland Groove box fans would like to see this feature so why did Roland leave it out, not just once but twice with the introduction of the 808?
Why not just give us mega mix in the software editor, that would be great.
Mega Mix for the MC-909 & MC-808
Re: Mega Mix for the MC-909 & MC-808
sorry about my ignorance, but i don't really know what |mega-mix| actually is...
i've seen it being mentioned and praised fairly often, still what does it do ?
thanks, b.
i've seen it being mentioned and praised fairly often, still what does it do ?
thanks, b.
Mega Mix.
The Megamix feature - Interesting and semi useful. It basically allows you to mix parts between various patterns (within a certain range). You can take the bass (part 2) from pattern 5 for example and change the part information from that to the part 2 on pattern 10. The entire part is changed (temporarily, unless you save it to a user pattern) to the new part including patch, notes, controller messages, everything. This feature is fun to fool around with and I have occasionally gotten very usable results doing it, both with preset and user patterns.
Someone ask Mike Acosta about this feature. I'm sure he would know in detail about mega mix and if any things is being done to add this feature in a future update. Thanks for the reply.
Someone ask Mike Acosta about this feature. I'm sure he would know in detail about mega mix and if any things is being done to add this feature in a future update. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Mega Mix for the MC-909 & MC-808
Sorry Marco
But i dont think Japan will be able to implement this feature in the 909 or in the MC-808. I will look into it but i doubt it on that one.
Actually the last machine that had the " Megamix " function was the D2 Groovebox.
Mike Acosta - Roland U.S
www.rolandus.com
Heres a video on the MC-808
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... arentId=84
But i dont think Japan will be able to implement this feature in the 909 or in the MC-808. I will look into it but i doubt it on that one.
Actually the last machine that had the " Megamix " function was the D2 Groovebox.
Mike Acosta - Roland U.S
www.rolandus.com
Heres a video on the MC-808
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... arentId=84
Re: Mega Mix for the MC-909 & MC-808
You can take the bass (part 2) from pattern 5 for example and change the part information from that to the part 2 on pattern 10. The entire part is changed (temporarily, unless you save it to a user pattern) to the new part including patch, notes, controller messages, everything.
thanks for the explanation.
can't you basically do the same thing on the 808 by using [shift] + [pattern copy] and selecting the parts from your current pattern which you want to copy to a new one?
as far as i know, on the 808 you can even mix the 'copy-destination data' (if there is any) with the 'copy-source data'
thanks for the explanation.
can't you basically do the same thing on the 808 by using [shift] + [pattern copy] and selecting the parts from your current pattern which you want to copy to a new one?
as far as i know, on the 808 you can even mix the 'copy-destination data' (if there is any) with the 'copy-source data'
Mega Mix
First I would like to thank all who reply to this mega mix feature rquest.
Mike! I think I will have to find an old MC-505 on ebay used. I took the 505 I had for granted and now that I don't have one I'm like shit that little thing was really a powerful groove box.
That sucks that Roland can't bring back this feature but who knows maybe in some future product Roland of Japan will add mega mix back into the groove box product line.
The D2 was not a very good idea...
Now this statement could bring about some great results. Mega mix would be nice to have for live use but for now this will have to work unless Mike Acosta can sell Japan on mega mix for a future update...HAHAHAHA just joking. LOL. Mega mix is great for live realtime performance so that's why I make this request. Thanks again.
You can take the bass (part 2) from pattern 5 for example and change the part information from that to the part 2 on pattern 10. The entire part is changed (temporarily, unless you save it to a user pattern) to the new part including patch, notes, controller messages, everything.
thanks for the explanation.
can't you basically do the same thing on the 808 by using [shift] + [pattern copy] and selecting the parts from your current pattern which you want to copy to a new one?
as far as i know, on the 808 you can even mix the 'copy-destination data' (if there is any) with the 'copy-source data'
This should be a big help.
Mike! I think I will have to find an old MC-505 on ebay used. I took the 505 I had for granted and now that I don't have one I'm like shit that little thing was really a powerful groove box.
That sucks that Roland can't bring back this feature but who knows maybe in some future product Roland of Japan will add mega mix back into the groove box product line.
The D2 was not a very good idea...
Now this statement could bring about some great results. Mega mix would be nice to have for live use but for now this will have to work unless Mike Acosta can sell Japan on mega mix for a future update...HAHAHAHA just joking. LOL. Mega mix is great for live realtime performance so that's why I make this request. Thanks again.
You can take the bass (part 2) from pattern 5 for example and change the part information from that to the part 2 on pattern 10. The entire part is changed (temporarily, unless you save it to a user pattern) to the new part including patch, notes, controller messages, everything.
thanks for the explanation.
can't you basically do the same thing on the 808 by using [shift] + [pattern copy] and selecting the parts from your current pattern which you want to copy to a new one?
as far as i know, on the 808 you can even mix the 'copy-destination data' (if there is any) with the 'copy-source data'
This should be a big help.
Mega Mix
Can we do this is real time while the sequencer is going or do we have to stop the sequencer in play-mode and copy and paste while the unit is not playing back? Can you write over all the patterns in this thing or what? I was told that the MC 808 is being targeted at the hip hop world so the patterns inside will do me no good but if i could re-write the box that would be cool. I need to know if I can do this statement below in realtime in play-mode, does anyone know?
You can take the bass (part 2) from pattern 5 for example and change the part information from that to the part 2 on pattern 10. The entire part is changed (temporarily, unless you save it to a user pattern) to the new part including patch, notes, controller messages, everything.
thanks for the explanation.
can't you basically do the same thing on the 808 by using [shift] + [pattern copy] and selecting the parts from your current pattern which you want to copy to a new one?
as far as i know, on the 808 you can even mix the 'copy-destination data' (if there is any) with the 'copy-source data'
You can take the bass (part 2) from pattern 5 for example and change the part information from that to the part 2 on pattern 10. The entire part is changed (temporarily, unless you save it to a user pattern) to the new part including patch, notes, controller messages, everything.
thanks for the explanation.
can't you basically do the same thing on the 808 by using [shift] + [pattern copy] and selecting the parts from your current pattern which you want to copy to a new one?
as far as i know, on the 808 you can even mix the 'copy-destination data' (if there is any) with the 'copy-source data'
Re: Mega Mix for the MC-909 & MC-808
you can initialize and rewrite all the patterns.
and you have to stop the sequencer to do any editing, also copying, which is a bit anoying...
and you have to stop the sequencer to do any editing, also copying, which is a bit anoying...
Re: Mega Mix for the MC-909 & MC-808
The megamix on the Mc505 was an excellent function,I cannot believe there isn't one on the 909(just bought one as my 505 went to Groovebox heaven) As someone mentioned here I also took the 505 for granted. It was an excellent wee tool for live performance.
sad sad sad...
I know the last message on this topic is nearly a year and a half old,
but I have just recently bought my MC-808 not knowing it doesn't have the megamix function, and now I am UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED!!!
Although the mc-808 is a way better machine than the mc-505, and much more easy to work with, I think Roland has just shot itself in the leg.
In contrast to the spirit prevailing in this post that this function is a "nice to have one" or "semi-usefull", me and my friends think (and we don't care if you'd have us as a no-skill musicians) that removing this function VIRTUALLY TOOK ALL THE CORE-ESSENCE of the groovebox!!!
All the idea of a groovebox is to be able to "fly on" with it while it is running, the ability to RECURSIVELY EVOLVE your music!
Think that with megamix you could travel freely between mixing all patterns with themselves,
you could start off with one, and build the mix up while you're going through any other patterns and end up in a completely different pattern.
Now, the need to STOP THE MACHINE, copy a part and setup its patch (which consumes a considerable time) - HUGELY DECREASE the creativity of the machine (which supposed to be its heart) and RENDER IT USELESS for true LIVE (jamming, improvisation) performances, other than tweaking on and off the parameters in ONLY 1 PATTERN!!!
It's like creating a sports-car without a manual gear... yes it drives fast, but you just took the sports out of it.
The sad thing, is that being a software and hardware programmer myself, I know that the implementation of such a feature will not take more than 1 day for a person who is familiar with the system. I would gladly do it for free if Roland would have let me to!!!
So, until MEGAMIX function is not implemented in the OS version, I would 100% claim: DON'T BUY THIS BOX!!! not having megamix is a party-stopper, and I will change my mind only if Roland would choose to incorporate it!
And I'm also pretty sure that even if untold so, or unaware to it, this is why so many users are getting bored with the machine so fast, and that's why Roland is not successful with it in comparisson to the 505.
Come one Roland, I promise this software update will raise your sales of 808 in few hundreds of percents!
Don't put out a NEW box with megamix if you don't update this one, you will lose a lot of old trustworthy customers!
but I have just recently bought my MC-808 not knowing it doesn't have the megamix function, and now I am UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED!!!
Although the mc-808 is a way better machine than the mc-505, and much more easy to work with, I think Roland has just shot itself in the leg.
In contrast to the spirit prevailing in this post that this function is a "nice to have one" or "semi-usefull", me and my friends think (and we don't care if you'd have us as a no-skill musicians) that removing this function VIRTUALLY TOOK ALL THE CORE-ESSENCE of the groovebox!!!
All the idea of a groovebox is to be able to "fly on" with it while it is running, the ability to RECURSIVELY EVOLVE your music!
Think that with megamix you could travel freely between mixing all patterns with themselves,
you could start off with one, and build the mix up while you're going through any other patterns and end up in a completely different pattern.
Now, the need to STOP THE MACHINE, copy a part and setup its patch (which consumes a considerable time) - HUGELY DECREASE the creativity of the machine (which supposed to be its heart) and RENDER IT USELESS for true LIVE (jamming, improvisation) performances, other than tweaking on and off the parameters in ONLY 1 PATTERN!!!
It's like creating a sports-car without a manual gear... yes it drives fast, but you just took the sports out of it.
The sad thing, is that being a software and hardware programmer myself, I know that the implementation of such a feature will not take more than 1 day for a person who is familiar with the system. I would gladly do it for free if Roland would have let me to!!!
So, until MEGAMIX function is not implemented in the OS version, I would 100% claim: DON'T BUY THIS BOX!!! not having megamix is a party-stopper, and I will change my mind only if Roland would choose to incorporate it!
And I'm also pretty sure that even if untold so, or unaware to it, this is why so many users are getting bored with the machine so fast, and that's why Roland is not successful with it in comparisson to the 505.
Come one Roland, I promise this software update will raise your sales of 808 in few hundreds of percents!
Don't put out a NEW box with megamix if you don't update this one, you will lose a lot of old trustworthy customers!