First Post: Question regarding nylon string guitar =]

[Deprincer]

Hi Everyone,

I just purchased a new Fantom X8 and figured I should probably get in on the "Roland Community".

A little about myself, I'm a musician attending California Institute of the Arts (Cal Arts) and am a music composition major. I've been playing the piano for 3 years and have picked it up relatively quickly. I'm pretty open-minded and love meeting new people.

I hope I have a great experience here at Roland CLAN. Cheers!

Anyway,

My question is regarding the video shown here: http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... arentId=83

It's the one of Scott Tibbs showing off 'Sound Examples' of the Fantom X. He plays the nylon acoustic guitar in "performance mode" and it produces 'finger slide string' sounds. You know, the sound of your fingers sliding down a string.

I have not found this patch to produce the fingersliding sound. Do I need a sustain pedal for this or something else? I'd really like to know as I'm very curious as to what I have to do. Thanks a lot guys!

[T14]

Oh sure men, you are totally right, when I was willing to buy the Fantom and later on I say that finger sliding sound, but when I got my fantom I couldn't find it at all.
Any answer ??
Jim Stout??

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T14 - Argentina

[Skip Towne]

Check out the GM patches... Number 216/121

[ctimmerman]

If you look closely, you can see the "Beat" light blinking. My guess is the sound of the finger sliding on the strings has been recorded in a pattern that just loops.

Carl
Fantom X8, Mackie DFX-6, Peavey KB/A 50

[Solitary man]

I have come across 3 or 4 guitar patches that incoporate sliding notes. You don't need a sustain pedal or anything else, the sliding is reproduced by playing harder on the keyboard. To narrow it down choose the guitar catergory.

[drh]

I'm glad the Fantom has something ready-made approaching Yamaha's 'Super Articulation' at least for acoustic guitars.

The two Roland videos that I have watched featuring acoustic guitar are...

'Playing Live' which features a "nylon string guitar patch which has velocity-switched sounds depending on how hard I play"

and

'Acoustic Guitar'
" the Fantom X has brand new acoustic nylon string guitar sounds that are so realistic and programmed so musical that every keyboard player can sound like a guitarist. "

Both of these extracts are played in free time, implying that the effects are triggered by velocity or aftertouch, not by a looped sample.
I'm thinking velocity is the relevant parameter, and also wondering whether the keyboard sensitivity setting needs to be lowered in order to make the effect more noticeable.

Shame they don't name the patches they use.

Skip Towne:
surely they won't be straight GM patches if they have articulation effects and are described as new.

[ctimmerman]

FYI

The video I was referring two is "Sound Examples"

Carl
Fantom X8, Mackie DFX-6, Peavey KB/A 50

[piaknowguy]

Hi Drh, Ctimmerman and others,

Actually, the fretboard noise is simply the GM patch assigned as a layered performance sound to C3 and below. I have used this technique in many performances. It is also a great way to assign sounds like chimes or church bells to an otherwise un-used key that can be triggered easily as you play.

Cheers!
PiaKnowGuy

http://www.piaknow.com

[Deprincer]

Hey PiaKnowGuy,

When I do the layering of C3 and below, the pithces are too low (because they're under C3)... is there anyway I can assign higher pitches of the fretnoise patch below C3?

[piaknowguy]

Hi Deprincer!

You can assign the fret noise to any part of the keyboard. (a single key is sufficient) Hit F2 (part view), then F3 (pitch) if you wish to change the pitch of the sound.

Hope that helps!

PiaKnowGuy

http://www.piaknow.com

[drh]

Hi paiknowguy,

Thanks for the clear info. Appreciated.

[drh]

And Hi ctimmerman,

Thanks for the info.

Have now watched 'Sound Examples' and it seems that, in line with piaknowguy's info, the fretboard effect seems to be triggered when Scott Tibbs presses the C key.

On the other hand, the grace note effect seems to be related to velocity.

[drh]

Duh!!!

Sorry to bang on about this but
in case anyone else like me didn't notice previously,
the velocity switched guitars have 'VS' at the end of their name (or at least some of them do).

They seem to be produce two sorts of note slide, one which uses the note below like a grace note, and the other which does a turn using the note above.

I'm thinking the first seems to be triggered when following an upward scale, whereas the second is triggered for all other situations. Please feel free to correct me if this is wrong.