Fantomizing guitar

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Red Winger
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Re: Fantomizing guitar

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Wow! This thread was active overnight (that is, overnight for me)! :-)

gtds, on Logic, it does have a steeper learning curve than the other sequencers. Some people think it's more intuitive, for me, it's not. However, I must say that, the more I'm using it, the more I'm appreciating its flexibility and power. So, my view is that while there's definitely some short-term growing pains, it's actually likely to be great in the long run.

One thing you might do, instead of the on-line videos, given your dial-up connection, would be to pick up a couple of the books that are available on it. I bought three, each of which has been helpful in one area or another, and all of which will be useful, I think, as reference guides:

Logic Audio Workbook -- Dave Bellingham (who is oscwilde on the sonik forums)

Apple Pro Guide on Logic 6.0 (Apple's "training" course on Logic)

Logic Tips and Tricks -- Len Sasso

The first two come with CDs with tutorial files that help you get a sense for how Logic works and help you with setting up your own Environment, key commands, etc. The last is more of an intermediate to advanced guide with some special tips/tricks. There's overlap between each of these, but I found them helpful. If you're only going to get one, I'd probably start with the Apple Pro Guide. BTW, while it deals with version 6.0, you can still use the tutorial files in 5.5.1, and most of the tutorials/concepts apply equally well in 5.5.1 (notable excpetions being features like Channel EQ, Freeze, etc.).

The other thing I'd recommend is hanging out at the Sonik forums (http://community.sonikmatter.com/cgi-bi ... matebb.cgi). Make sure you read the rules there first, as they are pretty rigid about how/where to post, but they are a great resource.

Anyway, I'd say I'm a long way from being an expert in Logic, but I now have enough down to be able to record audio/midi, use inserts/sends, edit audio/midi, bounce to files, etc. (all of the basic stuff). I'm confident at this point that I'll be able to become a lot more efficient with Logic as time goes on. Hang in there since, as you learn more, I think you'll really appreciate all of Logic's capabilities.

Cheers,
RW

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gtds
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Re: Fantomizing guitar

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Red Winger

Is...

Apple Pro Guide on Logic 6.0 (Apple's "training" course on Logic)

...applicable to PC?

Thanks

gtds
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Re: Fantomizing guitar

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Yes and no. It is obviously geared toward Mac, and discusses version 6.0, which is Mac only. However, with the exception of the particular key commands and a few interface details, the vast majority of features it discusses are applicable to the PC. As I plan to migrate to Mac sometime over the next year, it was something that I found useful for now while I'm on the PC with further potential down the road.

If you're solely PC-focused (now and in the future), there is a book called "User's Guide to Logic 5" (or something like that) that may also be a good buy for you. It complements the Logic Audio Workbook well in that the "User's Guide" is directed primarily to the MIDI features of Logic, whereas the "Workbook" is directed primarily to the audio features. The more I think about it, you might be a lot better off just picking up those two books.

One thing though, and I know someone else mentioned this: if you are truly committed to sticking with a PC, you might be better off going with a program like Cubase. While Emapple is still supporting PC, it isn't making any new advancements for the PC.

Cheers,
RW

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gtds
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Re: Fantomizing guitar

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Thanks as always.

When you say

Logic Audio Workbook -- Dave Bellingham (who is oscwilde on the sonik forums)

Do you mean "Logic Audio & Workshop"? ...for $40 and 2 pounds in weight?

;)

gtds
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Re: Fantomizing guitar

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Sorry, yes. It's actually called "Logic Audio Workshop." Very good book for those starting out with Logic (IMO).

Cheers,
RW

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I really wish..

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the Fantom had an acoustic guitar effect that I could run my guitar through. I know there are effects pedals that do this..

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Re: Fantomizing guitar

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Phait

Those effects are awful!! Believe me, they never sound anything like a real acoustic. They always sound way to metallic, with no body ...like if the guitar was made out of tin.

The same goes for those effects that try to make your electric guitar sound like a bass.

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Re: Fantomizing guitar

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Thanks RW - I may give that book a go if I really can't get started.

gtds
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