Why we need ORGAN modeling ARX (and not VK-8M or similar)

[brane]

I need for live gigs all sounds incl. organ mixed INTERNAL IN ONE UNIT (= stored in Live Performance Patch) as end live mix:

1 keyboard (FG) - 1 memory - 1 stereo out (to mixerman!)

So i wan´t buy separate VK-8M or other organ units.
But I would buy the organ ARX card immediately.

If Roland doesn't release the organ ARX card, this will not make the sale of VK organs increase.

I´m happy with all FG sounds except organs - there new samples wan´t help - good organ sound can only be done by an emulation (organ modeling with good Leslie + Overdrive FX at the same time).

With ORGAN modeling ARX, FG will be finally the ultimate live keyboard !

[billw]

+10000000000000000000000000000

I'm with you. Organs are the only thing I can't get to sound right with the Fantom G no matter what I try. I've been able to sample any other sound that I've found lacking, but the Hammond + Leslie cannot be sampled.

I'm starting to feel like a broken record...ROLAND PLEASE MAKE AN ARX BOARD WITH THE VK-8M ENGINE ON IT! A virtual analog synth card wouldn't hurt either while you're at it!!!

[Daniel Mioni]

Count on me people! )

ARX ORGAN!!! B3, Vox and farfisa before I get my nord and forget about ARX. :-p

[MikeRO]

yeah..........it's a pretty IMPORTANT patch. ORGAN MODELLING ARX please

[keysme]

I agree! An ARX B3 (and other) modeling Organ card would be fantastic! It makes sense from a business perspective for Roland too in my opinion. As we know, several of the organs on the Fantom G lack realism, i.e., an adequate or sufficient B3 leslie sim sound, etc. There has been "huge" interest from Fantom G owners (and perspective owners alike) for a killer ARX B3 modeling Organ card; so if Roland pulls off something on a scale of 1 to 10 and delivers a 10!!, or thereabouts, the Roland community will be a buzz in excitement and online chatter in anticipation of its release to the public. But first they have to make one though, right? As we also know, the market is in a lull right now because of a sour global economy. But that doesn't mean Roland isn't doing their best behind the scenes to produce products (and hopefully ARX cards too) that will hopefully draw much needed attention and support from prospective Roland customers to those said products. >> Roland is probably reading this and going "DIE KEYSME, DIE!!" But I just try to tell it like it is and I'm not one to be a respecter of persons per se i.e. showing favor unfairly, etc. If that ruffles a few feathers and upsets them... oh well. My intentions are to make Roland a better company and for them to use the thorny issues I bring up and goad them into doing better and acheiving par excellence - if indeed there is an area where progress could and should be made and improved upon. If Roland feels they are already perfect and will not condescend to us mere mortals, then unfortunately, Roland's future and destiny look rather bleak down the road if such is the case, in my opinion. If, on the other hand, they don't mind accepting ideas and suggestions from the bleachers i.e. you and me (which I really feel they DO listen to us) then all the more reason to continue to "shout it from the rooftops", so to speak. So yes, I concur that an ARX Supreme Organ card would be very well received in the Fantom G community in my opinion. Even at that $500 watershed price they ask for it too. BUT ONLY = if the sample patches contained therein are actually worth the $500.00 price tag they ask for it. Mediocrity breeds contempt, needless to say. But I have high hopes that Roland will indeed come through with something extraordinary. And then I can finally fill one of my Fantom G ARX card slots to boot.. I can hear the angels singing now.

What say you Roland?? Ah! c'mon now.. Don't be shy.. >> DIE, KEYSME, DIE!! Wow, thanks for the encouraging words Roland. lol.

[en76]

Absolutely will be welcome! ARX - ORGAN ! and don't forget to include a ARX module with 2,4, and 6 slots stack-able option which only compatible with FG only. Now that will definitely rock out the FG sales. Now, only if I can have all of them loaded at once without swapping.
even though if such Module is yet to be made, will still buy ARX period. I happen to love em all... good job Roland and would really wanna encourage all you engineers/ programmers or crew/team behind this wonderful ARX supernatural to take courage and rock em out!!! count on it - cause you can be sure that a minimum $500 is waiting to be exchange for things of FG or ARX. so, how about it! any hint on how soon? just checking ))) aloha!

[lazeeboy]

Yes an ARX organ board would indeed be very cool. Even though I have a VK-8M and have my 2 ARX slots filled I would buy such a board in an instant because it would be so much cleaner on stage to have only the G8. So Amen to that!

[cyclops]

I think that a ARX Organ expansion board would be a real dream, be it one-part or three-part (it'd better be a three-part). I strongly believe that modeling technology is the best to emulate these kinds of sounds. Frankly, samples aren't the best way to emulate organ sounds, especially if you want to faithfully recreate aspects of the organ sounds like tonewheel leakage, rotary speaker and so on. So, we'll be waiting for a thing like this. Roland has already the technology, into their virtual organs (VK-series keyboards and VK-8M module).

[CShorte]

I am in total agreement and I would hope that the 8 fader controls would be assigned the draw bar functionality for the organs.

And, in advance, thanks Roland for a great workstation and the work you do to make it the best of it's kind. CS.

[Andy Keys]

8 faders for 9 drawbars? Which two will you combine?

Although I do think that an Organ ARX would be a really positive development for the Fantom G. People seem to be screaming out for that and a proper analogue modelling synth that does Jupiter-8/Juno-106/TB-303 sounds.

Andy

[Artemiy]

Andy, you could always use SHIFT to make alternative parameters accessible via a certain controller.

[Andy Keys]

I know, Art. I'm just being difficult! )

When using B4Real on the Fantom X I assigned several drawbars to each of the 4 control knobs, so I could manipulate the drawbars to some degree. Clever use of RPS would allow you to ignore or include certain drawbars at any given time. The hardest part is figuring out which you tend to use together (for me, I tend to always combine the Fundamental and the Sub 5th (5 1/3' and 8').

Andy

[Daniel Mioni]

Andy, 8 sliders plus the 4th nob = 9 drawbars. :-p

I realy don´t care, even If I had to use the mouse. LOL!!! ARX ORGAN!!! )

PS: First the ARX, after that we can complain here and there about the 8 sliders. LOL² Maybe ask for ARX-S the 9th slider.

[billw]

I have a V-Machine. It's a great idea, but it means more MIDI and audio cables, an extra power supply, another USB stick, an Ebtech -10dB to +4dB line level shifter to get the V-Machine loud enough, etc. I'd much rather have the VK-8M's engine on an ARX board. The VK-8M is one of my favorite clones. I like it so much that I've bought two of them!!!

Having a nice VA ARX would be killer too. I guess Roland had their reasons for making drums, EP and brass boards. As a gigging keyboard player, however, drums are pretty useless. The EP and brass sounds in the G are good enough or can be supplemented with samples. For gigging, it's really stuff like Hammond and VA that are hard to reproduce. Just my $.02.

[Anton]

I won't even think about it and buy the Organ ARX the same day