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DaveC ,
no keyboard can beat piano from S90ES as yet.
Even stage piano like RD700GX has weaker piano comparing to S90ES. Maybe PCX3 can compare here.

But buying workstation exclusively for piano sound? that's silly ;)

FYI, I have S90ES, motif XS and just bought keybed from RD700GX and will be controlling yamaha piano from it because
expressive grand from roland is unusable.
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Some like the piano in the S90ES and some like the piano in other brands like the Fantom X/G. It's a matter of taste, nothing else.
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Man....I don't know about all this, but I LOVE at least 4 of the Piano patches on the G. It seems I like one from each type.

My new favorite is the New York Grand 8 with less reverb!
Nice...

I have not done a side by side, but when I tested the RD700GX last week it was the best sounding Grand Piano I ever remember hearing from a synth!
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>>>I tested the RD700GX last week it was the best sounding Grand Piano I ever remember hearing from a synth!

that is the first impression, but try to listen to each sound chromatically with headphone and you'll hear strange things going on...
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I know what you are saying. I had the same problem with the X Piano's when I first got my X as well as the SRX-12 Rhodes especially. Irritating, but it usually does not affect the performance.
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>>>>>>>>>Not sure what you mean by this. Don't software pianos, and pianos on modern romplers work the same way? With samples? Maybe the software program has better samples, but I don't think they work differently in theory.

Also, modern digital synths run software just like a computer. The difference is that the hardware runs an OS dedicated to the operation of the instrument; it does not have to deal with anything else.

I am not saying you are wrong, just curious as to why you categorically label piano VST's as better than what you can get from hardware.>>>>>>>

I have now made Logic Studio my main sound source, I couldn't be rational in explaining technical reasons behind differences, but I find software (ie computer) based emulation offers a broader sound, it feels & sounds more real. Perhaps it's to do with amount of MBs used to store a sound, which is limited on hardware synths. Just go & have a play with Logic Studio via a good set of cans or sound system, then try a hardware synth, my ears tell me to go with soft.

And I can almost guarantee that in the not so far away future most live musicians will make a switch to computer driven sound engines, so far I haven't seen a great controller board on the market that would implement most features required for live sound manipulation, IMHO Akai MPK49 is close to perfection, but they only offer 49 key version so far, if they only could do a controller featuring 88 QUALITY key version of MPK49, then we would have a king control board.

Here is a link with some basic examples of what's on offer, listen to that, then compare to other main workstation manufacturers demos. Pianos, organs, EPs, guitars (acoustic & electric), etc sound broader, more depth/detail. Tell me what YOUR ears will tell you.

http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/instruments/#overview
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Logic is Logic, why don't you mention it uses like a gig of RAM just for the piano while G and XS have much less for their entire sound sets? Makes no sense to compare them this way.
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Artemiy, why would you be concerned with how much memory is allocated in Logic? I would have thought that ultimately musician's 1 need is to have access to quality of sound. My MacbookPro Intel has no problems.
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