Fantom O and Fantom compatibility

[Frédéric]

Hi,

Is it possible to import scenes and tones created on a Fantom O to a Fantom flagship ?

Thanks for your answers

[xp30]

Is it possible to import scenes and tones created on a Fantom O to a Fantom flagship ?

Yes, the exported files can be directly imported without any modification.

[Frédéric]

Thanks a lot

[Frédéric]

Hi,

I received my Fantom 8.

all sounds and scenes have been imported but no patterns are present in the scenes.
if anyone can help me

Thanks

[xp30]

I received my Fantom 8.

all sounds and scenes have been imported but no patterns are present in the scenes.

How did you import the data? Did you create a backup on the Fantom-0, and load the backup into the big Fantom? Or did you export tones/scenes, and load them?

[Frédéric]

I received my Fantom 8.

all sounds and scenes have been imported but no patterns are present in the scenes.

How did you import the data? Did you create a backup on the Fantom-0, and load the backup into the big Fantom? Or did you export tones/scenes, and load them?

In first import scenes then restore backup from Fantom O in the Big Fantom
in both cases the scenes are faithfully imported but without the patterns
I’m lost
Thanks for your help

[xp30]

In first import scenes then restore backup from Fantom O in the Big Fantom
in both cases the scenes are faithfully imported but without the patterns

I do not have a Fantom-0. However, I just tried it with the Fantom-0 scenes that are linked from the description of the following Youtube video: https://youtu.be/qtddewb_J8g (ROLAND Fantom-0 Top 80 Cover Collection by Emanuele Casali).

When I import a scene that contains a pattern (e.g. "Blame runner"), then the pattern is also imported.

I would suggest to isolate the problem: Is there an issue with exporting the patterns on the Fantom-0, or with importing the patterns into the Fantom? Can you test it with the scene that I have just mentioned? Can you share an exported scene from your Fantom-0, and then others can check if the pattern is correctly imported onto their Fantom?

[Frédéric]

In first import scenes then restore backup from Fantom O in the Big Fantom
in both cases the scenes are faithfully imported but without the patterns

I do not have a Fantom-0. However, I just tried it with the Fantom-0 scenes that are linked from the description of the following Youtube video: https://youtu.be/qtddewb_J8g (ROLAND Fantom-0 Top 80 Cover Collection by Emanuele Casali).

When I import a scene that contains a pattern (e.g. "Blame runner"), then the pattern is also imported.

I would suggest to isolate the problem: Is there an issue with exporting the patterns on the Fantom-0, or with importing the patterns into the Fantom? Can you test it with the scene that I have just mentioned? Can you share an exported scene from your Fantom-0, and then others can check if the pattern is correctly imported onto their Fantom?

imported the same scene from your link and it’s ok, the pattern is also imported

I sent you a folder contains 2 scenes created on my Fantom O

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/1fe443 ... e=sendgrid

Tell me more please

Thank you

[xp30]

I sent you a folder contains 2 scenes created on my Fantom O

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/1fe443 ... e=sendgrid

After opening this link, I can only see the FANTOM.SVD file. I can not see any other files.

A scene export consists of a folder, the FANTOM.SVD file within the folder, and potentially further files in the SEQ sub-folder. In particular, the patterns are stored in the SEQ sub-folder.

For example, in https://forums.rolandclan.com/viewtopic ... 93#p342493 I shared a scene as a ZIP archive, and this archive has the following content:

Code: Select all

M    Mode     Size        Date&time         Filename
- ----------  -----  --------------------  ----------------
  drwxr-xr-x      0  22-Jul-2023 20:53:34  something/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/001/
  -rw-r--r--  40996   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/001/SeqSet.SQS
  -rw-r--r--   6284   1-May-2019 02:19:16  something/FANTOM.SVD

The file something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/001/SeqSet.SQS contains the patterns for the first scene.

[Frédéric]

I sent you a folder contains 2 scenes created on my Fantom O

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/1fe443 ... e=sendgrid

After opening this link, I can only see the FANTOM.SVD file. I can not see any other files.

A scene export consists of a folder, the FANTOM.SVD file within the folder, and potentially further files in the SEQ sub-folder. In particular, the patterns are stored in the SEQ sub-folder.

For example, in https://forums.rolandclan.com/viewtopic ... 93#p342493 I shared a scene as a ZIP archive, and this archive has the following content:

Code: Select all

M    Mode     Size        Date&time         Filename
- ----------  -----  --------------------  ----------------
  drwxr-xr-x      0  22-Jul-2023 20:53:34  something/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/
  drwxr-xr-x      0   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/001/
  -rw-r--r--  40996   1-May-2019 02:19:18  something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/001/SeqSet.SQS
  -rw-r--r--   6284   1-May-2019 02:19:16  something/FANTOM.SVD

The file something/SEQ/SEQ_SET/A/001/SeqSet.SQS contains the patterns for the first scene.

Oups,

Sorry

Now I think it’s good with this link

https://we.tl/t-nrzS2Hu8ab

[xp30]

Now I think it’s good with this link

https://we.tl/t-nrzS2Hu8ab

I imported both scenes, and I can see the patterns for both scenes:

enjoy_silence.jpg (54.99 KiB) Viewed 1077 times

[Frédéric]

Now I think it’s good with this link

https://we.tl/t-nrzS2Hu8ab

I imported both scenes, and I can see the patterns for both scenes:

enjoy_silence.jpg

Incredible

I don’t understand why it doesn’t work for me !!!

[xp30]

I don’t understand why it doesn’t work for me !!!

I use the Fantom EX upgrade. I doubt that it works because of that. However, if you have not already, I recommend to update to the latest non-EX version 3.02, and check if that fixes the issue.

[Frédéric]

I don’t understand why it doesn’t work for me !!!

I use the Fantom EX upgrade. I doubt that it works because of that. However, if you have not already, I recommend to update to the latest non-EX version 3.02, and check if that fixes the issue.

I did it as soon as I received the keyboard.

What I don't really understand is that for example the scenes that you sent to me from Emanuele Casali are imported with the patterns into the big fantom.
I had already imported a few scenes from this same author some time ago into my Fantom O and all was perfect.

But When I export these same scenes from my fantom O to my big fantom works without the patterns !!!

the 2 scenes that I sent you yesterday were imported from my fantom 0 into my big fantom.
then I exported them from my big fantom and work well in your Fantom.
So I downloaded today these 2 scenes from the link I sent you and it doesn't work

I’m lost

[xp30]

Things that I might try in this situation:

• Create a backup, and perform a factory reset, to check if it works after the factory reset.
• Initialize a scene on the Fantom-0, create a simple pattern, export it and import it into the big Fantom. If it works, then iterate and increase the complexity of the scene, until it stops working. This might help if there is anything special about your scenes that prevent the correct import.
• Contact Roland support.