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cello
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SoundFont 2 convertor

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Roland just released a soundfont2 convertor for the Fantom. Open the app, drag the SF2 file over and it converts. Then got to Import Sample in Utility - works perfectly!

https://www.roland.com/global/support/b ... f3d1970e6/
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Thank you...
0kk0p3kk4
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cello wrote:Roland just released a soundfont2 convertor for the Fantom. Open the app, drag the SF2 file over and it converts. Then got to Import Sample in Utility - works perfectly!

https://www.roland.com/global/support/b ... f3d1970e6/
Can you or anyone try this one
http://sonimusicae.free.fr/blanchet1-en.html

When the Final sf2 file is at hand, a korg instrument can import this (So file works and the sound is fully playable)
However, eventhough the roland converter converts it to own format, fantom seem not to recognise the mapping data etc. Samples are getting in of course. Any thoughts on the matter?
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http://sonimusicae.free.fr/blanchet1-en.html

I cannot convert these sfark Files. The Converter seems to be very picky.

Maybe translator from chickensys will convert anything to sf2 but is there someone who have a link to a sf2 file which works?
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Googling "sfark to sf2" should provide result.
Did it times ago So cant remember which converter was found. In any case, got it to sf2 form.

Yeah, hopefully CS makes a cool and working converter :)
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After searching for a free sf2 editor, and as one was found, checked the uppermentioned example, why it didnt work properly on fantom.

If sf2 file is a bank- type of, rolands converter does not indicate it in anyway, but makes still something of the file. This of course isnt really a good practise.
Noticed also that "sample root key" wasnt put on original file, instead some other "root key" etc markings were done.
(so exporting "single sounds" as own sf2-files and inserting the sample root key markings, got it going.)

Lets hope for development to the roland converter, then process is much easier for UX.
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I successfully converted some sf2s and played around with the new multisamples features.

Although there are still missing some editing features. It is so much fun to work with, so powerful...

:)
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I can't believe I missed this until now. This is huge having a SF2 converter to leverage all the hard work that went into creating those SF2's. Endless fun!
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cello wrote: 09:39, 29 October 2020 Roland just released a soundfont2 convertor for the Fantom. Open the app, drag the SF2 file over and it converts. Then got to Import Sample in Utility - works perfectly!
The process actually seems a bit more convoluted than I'd expected, but I did get it to work... for SF2 instruments that had only a single velocity layer. Has anyone had any luck converting a soundfont with multiple velocity layers? I know that the Fantom architecture limits PCM sounds to 4 such layers (partials), but the soundfonts I'm trying to convert have just two, so that's not the issue. Anyone?
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Cannot load multi-layer patterns. I tried too. Fantom also puts its own samples on 4 Partials. For example, with drums, where a snare drum has several tones, for example. When the key is pressed, the pattern whose Velocity value is set to the strength of the stroke is activated. It would be nice to have an SVZ Converter that would solve this, also for a 1 Partial. Montage/MODX knows it, and so does the Korg Nautilius. It's quite strange that Roland hasn't solved this yet. If you try to upload a sample with multiple layers, only the strongest Velocity value will be uploaded, the others will not.
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nagyzoli76 wrote: 14:33, 2 September 2022 Cannot load multi-layer patterns. I tried too. Fantom also puts its own samples on 4 Partials. For example, with drums, where a snare drum has several tones, for example. When the key is pressed, the pattern whose Velocity value is set to the strength of the stroke is activated. It would be nice to have an SVZ Converter that would solve this, also for a 1 Partial. Montage/MODX knows it, and so does the Korg Nautilius. It's quite strange that Roland hasn't solved this yet. If you try to upload a sample with multiple layers, only the strongest Velocity value will be uploaded, the others will not.
Kronos did it right, so that explains Nautilus. I've never tried on the MODX, it doesn't directly support soundfonts as Korg does, nor do they offer a converter utility like Roland does, but I see that John Melas has conversion software, is that how you're talking about doing it?

But at least on one 2-velocity-layer soundfont I brought into the Fantom, I did not get the behavioer you described, where only the strongest value was uploaded. Instead, it alternated between notes. For example, a C might only trigger the low velocity, then the C# would only trigger the high velocity, then the D would again only trigger the lower velocity, etc.
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Hm. This is interesting. I sampled a MODX factory Nylon Guitar sound with the Extreme Sample Converter program, which can sample from any synthesizer if the synthesizer has its own sound card that can be set in the program. I did a sampling, which I recorded in 3 layers. You can hear a subtle strumming in the guitar sample at the first, a bit stronger at the second, and a little string resonance can already be heard at the third. The Extreme Sample Converter can sample this very well, and if you want, you can turn on the Auto Loop function on it, but it can also be set manually. It's about instruments, but it can also load and sample loaded VST Plug-ins. The only drawback is that this program can only load 32-bit VSTs. If the VST is 64-bit, you must use the jBridge program to convert it to 32-bit. These multi-layer samples, which were created during sampling, can be saved in several formats. Including SF2. When I loaded this, it only loaded the top Velocity values, not the rest. It's like you loaded it all in one, and Valocity doesn't add any additional values. This is easily loaded by Kronos and Montage. The other thing is that it would be better if the ready-made SF2 files that I load into the SVZ Converer program could be loaded at the same time, and it would not be necessary to select the corresponding samples and convert them to Multisample.
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