Thinking Of Selling Jupiter-80 and Buying Fantom 7

[CAF091280]

Hello, everyone.

I currently have a Jupiter-80, which I've had for about seven years, and I still love it. That being said, I am curious about what I'm missing out on by not owning the Fantom. It isn't feasible for me to own them both, so my question is, as purely a live performer, who cares only about UI and quality and quantity of patches, how big of a difference are we talking between the two? The Jupiter-80, for what I need it for, is a monster. I vividly recall getting the chills when I first started playing it.

[Saxifraga]

Fantom 7 and Fantom 80 are very different monsters. I regard the Fantom 7 as an EDM machine. I bought a MC-707 instead.
If you don't need the loop oriented sequencer and a ton of old JV/XV sounds and some Jupiter-X functionality, I wouldn't invest in it.
I personally prefer my Fantom G7 even though the hardware is a bit slow loading and saving projects. I upgraded from a G6 to a G7.
For a real live musician like you who really knows the ins and outs of the F80 it may be even a roadblock to learn all these new concepts, just to stay on top of things. Maybe a Jupiter-X is the better option? Seems more like a modern live instrument than the "workstation" option. You still have to learn this "scene" methodology even to play a single patch. Maybe that has changed with the last updates?

[xp30]

I currently have a Jupiter-80, which I've had for about seven years, and I still love it. That being said, I am curious about what I'm missing out on by not owning the Fantom. It isn't feasible for me to own them both, so my question is, as purely a live performer, who cares only about UI and quality and quantity of patches, how big of a difference are we talking between the two? The Jupiter-80, for what I need it for, is a monster. I vividly recall getting the chills when I first started playing it.

I am not really familiar with the Jupiter-80. I have to speculate a bit about its features, and I might be wrong.

If we are talking about a single keyboard live rig without computer, then I think the following features (in no particular order) make the Fantom-7 interesting for Jupiter-80 owners:

• Smooth sound transitions (except for V-Piano and VTW),
• Keyboard and multi samples,
• Good UI for programming (quick workflows, easy to find parameters),
• Z-Core improvements over SuperNatural synth engine,
• 16 simultaneous parts instead of 4/8 parts.

Note that the Fantom-7 does not have all the features from the Jupiter-80. For example, AFAIK, the Jupiter-80 supports user arps, and the Fantom-7 does not. Or the usability of aftertouch. Even if the Fantom-7 does everything you need, it would probably be a lot of work to recreate your Jupiter-80 programs/live-sets/registrations on the Fantom-7, and I am not sure if it is worth it.

[anotherscott2022]

Fantom is a lot more capable in many ways, with a much bigger sound palette of acoustic sounds and different VA emulations, but you definitely lose a bunch of what Jupiter 80 has as well, notably a more flexible effects architecture (combining multiple effects on a single sound in different arrangements, whereas Fantom is basically one tone-specific effect per sound combination), and a bunch of SuperNATURAL Acoustic tones that don't exist in Fantom.