graded keybed?

[luckyluca]

Hi, i tried the keybed at a shop and loved it.
I was wondering, do you know whether it's graded?
also does the juno reproduce string resonance?

thx

[anotherscott]

Hi, i tried the keybed at a shop and loved it.
I was wondering, do you know whether it's graded?/quote]
I don't know, but f you loved it, it doesn't matter. ;-)

also does the juno reproduce string resonance?

Well, it has a string resonance feature, but whether it "reproduces" it may be a matter of semantics. It is implemented as an effect.

[anotherscott]

I was wondering whether that was ever gong to show up, it posted 4 days after I wrote it! But I messed up the formatting and I can't edit it now, so to make the first part of the answer more clear:

Hi, i tried the keybed at a shop and loved it.
I was wondering, do you know whether it's graded?

I don't know, but f you loved it, it doesn't matter. ;-)

[Leokuma]

It only has an effect (MFX) that tries to mimic sympathetic resonance. It works really well, it's very realistic, but it doesn't really work like sympathetic resonance. It acts more like a special type of reverb. It's triggered even if you play only one single note. But it really adds to the performance, without faking it. It's very good.

I don't know about the graded keys. I have the 61 model.

[luckyluca]

It only has an effect (MFX) that tries to mimic sympathetic resonance. It works really well, it's very realistic, but it doesn't really work like sympathetic resonance. It acts more like a special type of reverb. It's triggered even if you play only one single note. But it really adds to the performance, without faking it. It's very good.

I don't know about the graded keys. I have the 61 model.

thx!

[luckyluca]

Hi, has anybody had the chance to compare the junods 88 and kross2 88 keybeds?

I'm quite fond of the juno but being unable to try the Kross and being in the same price range I thought I'd ask

thx

[anotherscott]

I don't think either one of them is great. Kross is a lot lighter to carry around, though.

I was looking at 61s, myself. The Roland beat the Kross 2 for me based mostly on better functionality for splits, and being able to change sounds without previous sounds cutting off. I also liked the sample loading feature, though I haven't used it yet. I didn't need the Korg's sequencer, though I may miss its more advanced MIDI functions.

Since you're looking at 88s, I'd also suggest checking out the Yamaha MX88, and if you can stretch the budget a little, the Kurzweil SP6.

[luckyluca]

I don't think either one of them is great. Kross is a lot lighter to carry around, though.

I was looking at 61s, myself. The Roland beat the Kross 2 for me based mostly on better functionality for splits, and being able to change sounds without previous sounds cutting off. I also liked the sample loading feature, though I haven't used it yet. I didn't need the Korg's sequencer, though I may miss its more advanced MIDI functions.

Since you're looking at 88s, I'd also suggest checking out the Yamaha MX88, and if you can stretch the budget a little, the Kurzweil SP6.

Ok I compared the fa08 junods88 and kross2 88 in shop today and found the fa08 and junods88 to be matching and preferable to the Kross 2 which felt lighter and a bit cheap & spongy.
so roland it is. :) it's a matter of which one now, well i placed an order for a juno ds, I'm obviously having second thoughts now :)

[Leokuma]

For me personally, multisampling is the killer feature of the DS, even though it doesn't have much memory. The FA don't support multisamples, and I think the Kross doesn't either, but I'm not sure.

I also prefer the preset piano and strings from the DS over the Kross, and piano sounds are very important to me.

Apart from the number of patches, I don't see a relevant difference in sound between the DS and FA, even though the FA has the Supernatural engine.

[anotherscott]

Apart from the number of patches, I don't see a relevant difference in sound between the DS and FA, even though the FA has the Supernatural engine.

In "real instrument" sounds, the only Supernatural sounds in the FA are piano, EPs, clav, organ, basses, acoustic guitar, and ensemble strings. All the rest are from the XV-5080, which came out 18 years ago. So other than that handful of SN sounds I listed (important as those sounds are), all the rest of the instrument sounds built into these boards should be as good or better on the DS, which I believe derives from fantom and other more recent sound sources. And if there are XV-5080 sounds you prefer, you can essentially load those FA sounds into the DS via axial (though obviously not as many at once), whereas there is no mechanism by which to load DS sounds into FA. The other source of real instrument sounds for these boards are the SRX-based axial expansions, which are basically the same for both boards, though again, you can load more of them into the FA simultaneously.

There is a bigger difference in synth sounds, where the FA has the Interga's supernatural VA synth engine, and the DS has just its regular rompler synth sounds.

Another sonic difference is that while the FA can put MFX on up to 16 different sounds at once, it can't put more than one on a single sound, while the DS can put up to 3 MFX on a single sound (but can't put different effects on 16 sounds at once). I think the FA effects structure has the edge for sequencing, while the DS effects structure has the edge for live performance.

[Leokuma]

Regarding Axial, I only know this page: http://axial.roland.com/category/juno-d ... 88_xps-30/

Is that all or does the DS have more sounds to download from Axial somewhere?

[anotherscott]

Regarding Axial, I only know this page: http://axial.roland.com/category/juno-d ... 88_xps-30/

Is that all or does the DS have more sounds to download from Axial somewhere?

That's all. The XV-5080 libraries give you all the non-SuperNatural instrument sounds that are in the FA (not the FA's synth sounds, but it's real-instrument sounds). The EXP libraries give you the sounds from the old SRX cards (and they are available for the FA as well).

[arc711]

Quick question. I am able to load sounds to my Juno DS from the Axial Expansions (EXP) but I am not sure how to load sounds onto my Juno DS from the XV-5080 Collections. I have downloaded the Roland Juno DS Librarian and also the XV-5080 Bank A Collection. Can anyone tell me how to load these onto my Juno DS?