Definite Problem With New SRX-11

[GregC]

Hi John ! Good to see you

Wayne, John is correct, any board will pick up the ping on G5

If you are very light fingered it isn't too noticeable on my RD-700SX.

As always, your mileage will vary. You should be able to return the SRX11 if it does not work out for you. All I can say, is that the
'Superior Grand ' is an awesome piano

GregC

[John01W]

Hey dood:) Good to see you too. I don't hear anything that "barks" in the demos for this board at the Roland site(man it sounds so darn good)

Is it only on 1 of the 4 velocity levels of that specific key, not all of them?

[V-CeeOh]

Hi all
Could someone please identify wich SRX11 sample you're talking about? I'm waiting for this SRX to test it (and possibly buy) and would like to know exactly what you're talking about. Thanks

[rbarkhouse]

Hey,

Could one of you guys who actually HAS the SRX11 make an audio demo showing the sample problems? Then we can actually have an informed discussion I'm curious to hear if it's a serious blatant problem that will affect everybody, or just something that will bug piano purist audiophiles.

Rick Barkhouse

[ocomain]

Just playing Patch#16 Darker Side and the F5 note is definitely out of whack compared to the adjoining notes. This is especially noticeable the harder you hit the key. In realworld scenario, this sample artifact will probably be most noticeable when playing in mono, or when playing at harder velocity. Otherwise, I can live with it...

Michael

[ocomain]

Anybody have any good ideas where to post this file (mp3 format, as high quality as possible)? I'd like to go thru all the patches so everyone can hear what I'm talking about.

Michael

[2TIM316]

Where is G5 in relation to middle C? It seems like different people label the octaves differently. If it is in one of the high octaves, it would seem that it wouldn't be all that bad. But still sort of a drag.

Otherwise, ocomain, how does SRX-11 sound in mono? Like I noted before, the "Ultimate Grand" piano samples in the Fantom-X I have found to be unusable in mono because of phasing. It almost sounds like you are getting an acceptable sound out of SRX-11 in mono, save for the problem with G5.

Awaiting your report.

[madAhorn]

Hey Guys...There are a couple of out of tune notes in the Fantom X piano also. My self and others have posted about it. The S piano's are fine, however. It is quite irretating to me. If only one or two notes over the entire keyboard sound bad, why not fix it. Who cares if it is an exact sample of an out of tune piano...I would rather have it in tune. The tuning causes the plinkyness you are speaking of...

[btdvox]

What notes are out of tune on the Fantom X piano? I havent found any at all... I was very very impressed with the Fantom X piano, i havent even thought about getting the SRX-11

[ocomain]

I'm not sitting at the keyboard now but if I remember right, the bad notes are within the 2 octaves above Middle C. Depending on the particular patch, I have found the "bad" sample occuring at F5, G5, A5 or B5. In other words, the bad note occurs just once within the specific patch (or you could just say that there is only one bad note).

As far as how the pianos sound in mono...the ones I've tried seem to be not that bad (not overly offensive). That's something else that should be recorded and made available for prospective purchasers. Every bit of information sure helps!

Michael

[btdvox]

Im not talking about the SRX-11 Piano im talking about the Fantom X- the last person said it had bad tuned keys... Just wondering which ones because to my ear they all sound fine.. if not amazing

[rbarkhouse]

ocomain, if you send me the MP3 I can put it online for you.

rick_barkhouse [at] yahoo [dot] ca

Rick Barkhouse

[zacko]

I got my SRX-11 last night. Only had about 10 mins. with it.
I use a Fantom S-88. I had to upgrade my OS to 1.9.

My initial impression is I'm quite dissapointed. There are velocity swithing problems, wierd sounding notes, unnatural decays, and some ploinky sounding samples. (that ping is annoying) Also, playing hard sounds VERY compressed and abrupt (just like the SRX02 which I have). Also, alot of midrange.

I quickly compared it to my Ksounds samples on my Triton Studio 88 and the Ksounds is much more playable and full sounding. (and less than half the price). And the KS is only 2 velocity layers.


Honestly, I'm initially shocked and hope my first impression changes.

I'm going to check it out more tonight and use it at a gig this weekend.

Will post again.

[DoItAgain]

No more jokes now:
We are all with you and hope that your first impression will change.
What about your monitoring equipment ?

[ocomain]

Last night I stayed up late and played around with the SRX-11 sounds. I went into the System Menu and set the Keyboard Velocity at the maximum value of 127, so that every note would play at the same level. With the volume turned up, I started hearing some weird ringing overtones around Middle C or D (depending on the patch). After a while, I couldn't honestly tell if I was hearing any of the original artifacts that I first mentioned in this thread...and I couldn't even tell if I was in the right octave range in the first place! It's very possible that I could have had the octave down transpose button activated at the time and that everything I reported happening in the 5th octave was really in the 4th octave (or was it the 5th dimension?). All I know now is that my ears are totally shot and I need to take a day off to clear my head! Man, I started hearing some really funky stuff in the decays, etc...and now I'm honestly wondering if I'm overanalyzing things or am I just going crazy! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael

(Rick, thanks for the offer! I will start recording using SoundForge. My mixer has USB so I don't have to use the audio in on my laptop. I was also wondering if I should record the piano sounds dry, without any of their original fx?)