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I have the System-1 plug-out and I'm happy-isn with it.
A few thoughts / requests for feature or changes to the way the plugin works.

1. The librarian part - maybe I'm getting old, but I cannot find a way to bring in just a single patch from the computer into the librarian. A bank - yes, a single patch - no. Importing a single patch using the bank load creates a new bank and, yes, you can then copy paste the preset into any other bank, but why-oh-why make it so complex?

2. Soft takeover of controls. Please, please, please introduce a soft takeover for all controls. At the moment, after loading a patch, the moment you touch a knob on S-1 hardware, the plugin control jumps to the hardware position - not nice, not clever.

3. The rotary controls. A mouse is not a rotary controller, please replace mouse interaction with an up/down movement and +Shift for fine adjustments.
BTW - at the moment you can click on a soft-knob and use the up/down keys to adjust the values, +Shift adds 10 to the value - nice, but then it's all gone if you touch the hardware because of no soft takeover.

4. The Arpeggio on hardware does not turn the plugin's one on/off. You can actually arpeggiate the arpeggiator by turning both (soft and hard) on at the same time - cute maybe, but a proper control would be nicer IMHO.

5. Selection of the 1.20 update waveforms - cannot be done from hardware! The plugin does not recognise the Legato key being held.

6. The dreaded (by me) patch selection with multiple instances of S-1 plugin. Described elsewhere... PLEASE FIX!


OK, That's my rant.
If you agree with any of the above, please "me too" and I'll pass the info to my friendly tech guy at Roland.

cheers

Those all sound like great updates!

Tell them we also want a TR-8 VST so we can do multi-track recording with zero latency and still plug into the MX-1.

Can we please get the Librarian as a standalone application and not require that it needs a plug-out to run? I downloaded the System 100 plug-out trial to get the Librarian and having to suffer through the trial protection of the plug out it while using the librarian is annoying. I'd simply love to be able to move patches to individual bank slots. A straight forward System 1/1m patch editor and librarian would be perfect.

@holewczyński - There is a third party stand-alone editor for System-1 out there.

Yes, it's really bad that such a large company cannot develop fully functional AND stand-alone editor/librarian to the S-1 and the plug-outs. I actually was told, by the Roland support team, to use a (lightweight) VSTi host controller (such as savihost) as a "stand-alone solution"...

Anyway, it's not a big deal for me...now when the S-1 has 64 memory slots for patches it is enough...and I don't want the S-1 to be just another "1000+ preset machine" for me. It's fun, fast and intuitive to work with (like the JP8000 and others)... :-)

Back to thoughts about plug-outs; I'm kinnda worried that Roland from now on will focus on other/new products...and that we have seen the end of new plug-outs for the S-1/S-1m. Now I strongly doubt that the Boutique-line will be released as plug-outs.

bldrman wrote:...I'm kinnda worried that Roland from now on will focus on other/new products...and that we have seen the end of new plug-outs for the S-1/S-1m. Now I strongly doubt that the Boutique-line will be released as plug-outs.

I doubt it. I think the plug outs as a concept are here to stay. They must have invested a lot into the technology and will not be abandoning it any time soon. The algorithms for ACB are done, it's matter of tweaks not a full development process to release new synths.
The boutique series will come out as plug outs without a doubt once the hardware production costs are recovered.

My only hope is that they will fix and improve the plugins (software ends of the hardware) to be useable without swearing.