sampler too basic. Alternative?

[wilkinsi]

I like the sampler in that its easy to capture audio and crop it. But that's it. I want to map samples across the keybed as though they behave like any other preset. I would like to play the sample backwards, stretch the audio.. then store it like that. Have I missed something, or is there a sampler out there that does what I want without the need for a degree in programming?

[Miyagi]

Hello wilkinsi,

If you need that kind of extended sampling options, you'd be better of with a synth from the Fantom range imho. The sampling in the FA is very basic.

Miyagi.

[geeman]

I like the sampler in that its easy to capture audio and crop it. But that's it. I want to map samples across the keybed as though they behave like any other preset. I would like to play the sample backwards, stretch the audio.. then store it like that. Have I missed something, or is there a sampler out there that does what I want without the need for a degree in programming?

How-do Wilkinsi,

With those requirements you list, I think the FA would disappoint. You would need to export your new samples to a computer DAW to do anything fancy, then import 'em back to the FA again, which isn't conducive to quick workflow and to be honest, can be rather tiresome. Bear in mind, also, that the FA's sample pads are not velocity sensitive.

On the positive side, if you are comfortable with that mentioned above, you'd have an massive 64 samples (16 x 4 banks) available with every song and with virtually no loading time.

It might be worthwhile to do an advance search on 'sampling' at the top of this page, to see what other folks think about the basic sampling on the FA.

regards

[bennyseven]

FA is not a sampler, and has no 'sample editor' onboard (like Fantoms, who are able to adjust pitch and time, normalize etc.).
You can basically edit the wave (cut/trunc/set start and end point).

You have to add $1000 to get a real sampler.
FA works as designed and in this way is not limited in my opinion.

[cresshead]

non roland alternative for sampling might be the soon to be released sampler electribe 2
although it's paraphonic apparently not fully polyphonic, other than that you'll need a computer and something like mashine, elecktron rythym or the akai mpc

[wilkinsi]

I wasn't expecting anything spectacular from the FA-06's sampler. In fact, the only sampler I ever had was an EMU E5000 (huge ugly thing with a green screen with thin text) that wasn't inspiring at the time. I find Roland gear, for the most part, the easiest to use. Maybe Roland might come up with a dedicated sampler that does what I want... one day.

[Chrisk-K]

The days of hardware samplers are over. It's much easier to do sampling with PCs/Macs/Tablets.

[wilkinsi]

I've finally found a software sampler which does what I'm looking for. Too bad Roland didn't develop one themselves.

[Pierre118]

I've finally found a software sampler which does what I'm looking for. Too bad Roland didn't develop one themselves.

Which software sampler have you found?

[wilkinsi]

I'm going for MOTU Mach Five 3 (when I can afford it). I'm told it does reverse playback, time stretching, pitch shifting and keyboard mapping. It also has in built arps and an extensive library of sounds. I always find hardware a lot easier and intuitive to use than software. I've already tried MOTU Audio Desk 4.0 (free), and that was a PITA for me. The hardware alternatives I considered (Roland MV8800, Fantom G/S/X, Elektron Octatrack) would cost a great deal more than MF3 and an iLok. I already have a MOTU 112D interface, two Roland VS recorders and recently upgraded my laptop to 8GB RAM.

[piotr979]

I'm going for MOTU Mach Five 3 (when I can afford it). I'm told it does reverse playback, time stretching, pitch shifting and keyboard mapping. It also has in built arps and an extensive library of sounds. I always find hardware a lot easier and intuitive to use than software.

and what your workflow will be? Are you going to make all music on Fa06 and just trigger samples/instruments in Motu or use computer with this app as a heart of your studio and FA06 as a part of it? I'm asking as I have the same dilemma, but I was thinking to buy Akai mpc 1000 as an addition to Fa06. Another option is Native Instruments maschine.

Roland fa06 sampler is sooo limited and I think is deliberately as they still sell SP-404 sampler. Otherwise I cannot find explanation for missing very,very basic features like speed , limited amount of samples, no custom folders, etc....

[wilkinsi]

The idea is to create and edit samples on MF3, trigger playback from the FA06, then record those finished triggered samples onto my Roland VS2480 hardware DAW.

I've not used a hardware sampler, and am not aware of the SP404's capabilities. I want to be able to time stretch and pitch shift audio samples, then have them play in reverse. AFAIK, MF3 is one of two software samplers that will do that. I believe Kontakt is another.

[wilkinsi]

Nope. UVI Falcon is another, and its far more stable than MachFive 3. There's also UVI Workstation (free), though that has very limited sampling and doesn't allow mapping.