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by Howard Jones on my Jupiter 50 tonight. It's not perfect and it's brought up more questions than answers but I'm starting to "get" how to set things up. Live set or Registration seems to depend on how you're performing. I DO wish they'd included the fourth part button on the keyboard but it's accessible via the menu and cursor buttons to turn on and off. That allows me to run other sounds on lower and solo while retaining the "essential" song sound in the Live Set.

I did set up another using a Registration for the base sound. Can't decide which I like better for a performance yet.

What are your thoughts JP50 users??

Hey Snoop !

Sounds like you are getting along just fine with that new monster.

Like you, I am a bit divided about when to use Registrations or when to use LiveSets. If I don't intend to use Lower and Solo, I suppose I would just create a LiveSet and let it go at that, but then I may just go ahead and assign suitable Lower and Solo Tones that I might want to use at some time in the future and save it as a Reg, if for no other reason than the fact that Registrations are much faster to call up than LiveSets, but to use a Reg just for quick access to a single LiveSet seems to be a horrible waste of a precious Reg. It should be possible to run a complete gig or session just from LiveSets, if you don't want Lowers or Solos. Save your LiveSets in user memory in the order you want to play them, and create a single Reg that calls up the very first LiveSet. Set the display cursor on the "UPPER" (LIveSet) number and just hit the increment button to go to the next LiveSet for the next song. The only problem is, a Reg sets up the rest of the keyboard the way you want where a LiveSet just deals with itself. If all other board parameters remain the same, then a single setup Reg would work, otherwise you would need a new Reg for each time other keyboard parameters would need to change, but even at this, it would still provide a means of getting use for several LiveSets out of each Reg - Call up Reg-1 that calls up LiveSet-1. Play LiveSets 1 thru 3. Call up Reg-2 that loads LiveSet-4. Play LiveSets 4 thru 8. Call up Reg-3 that loads LiveSet-9. Play LiveSets 9 thru 12 and so on and so forth. It would take some real planning ahead of time, but I suppose it could be done. I guess in this respect, I have been spoiled by the Juno-Gi. LiveSets is all it has. Then you just fill the "Favorites" banks with Pre-set and/or User LiveSets in whatever order you need them for quick recall.

When it comes to turning LiveSet Tones on and off in real-time, in case you haven't thought of it yet - for any LiveSet that uses a Tone that you want to always be ON - put that Tone in slot 4, since that is the one you do not have easy access to in real-time and put the Tones that you want to be "swicthable" in slots 1, 2, and 3 and switch them on and off from the front panel buttons, but you have to be in LiveSet Edit Mode to do this. Not sure if that would be a good idea in real-time on a gig.

So far, I have found trying to do any of this in real-time from the iPad screen a bit disconcerting. At my age, with my eye-sight and shaky, pudgy fingers, as big as the iPad screen is, it is just too crowded and too "busy" for me. I like to do my real-time switching or controlling from a discrete button that goes "click" when I hit it or from a real knob that I can feel with my finger tips. Perhaps I will never be much of a "touch screen" player.

Enjoy !

Regards,

Ted

If you are using an iPad then take a look at the SetListMaker app

What I am currently doing is using this app to send (pre-configured) preset MIDI Program Changes to the J50 (this can be controled by a pedal or switch in order send a NEXT [or PREV] MIDI PRESET message or you just touch the screen of course) - I use an FCB1010 Pedal

In this way be I can send a MIDI Change that just loads in the new UPPER / LIVE SET component...
but, I can as well, if I wish, change the Tones for the SOLO and LOWER components too
(Depending on the setup of the receiving MIDI Channels for each component)

On a long song, with lots of Sound Changes, I have created a REG with the START UP sounds in it and then I have a series of pre-configured MIDI Presets (the app can send out on all 16 MIDI channels at same time) in SetlListMaker, which I call up, one at a time, to change the components of that REG in live play

I use it to control the J50, My Nord Stage 2 and SamplePad in performance

Thanks for that Ted and Guy! Good info! It really is confusing as to which to use but from what I know of working with the Juno G, Gi, Di, Stage and Korg products, none of them really make any sense. I will say I prefer the "favorites" functions of the Di, Stage and KingKorg that I've owned over Registrations, live sets, performances, etc. But I'm sure the JP50 is set up this way to offer multiple ways for different musicians' workflow. I know that's how I like my computer applications (like I use the Adobe CS line and love that there are 6 different ways to do almost anything!)

Guy, I saw your other post about SetListMaker app, I'll go check it out as well!