INTEGRA-7 SRX-Boards for Jupiter-80?

[drpopper]

But can the INTEGRA-7 devalue the JP-80/50 anyway, since it offers all the SINGLE SN-Acoustic and SN-Synth Tones from the JP-80/50?
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I don't think so .... The JP-80 will have the same issue nearly all original concept Roland Synth's have had over history. What Roland is marketing it for (SN acoustic sounds, Performance keyboard) is not what end users will come to appreciate it for (The amazingly deep synthesis capabilities)
In 10 years time ...long after Roland have discontinued it for poor sales or replaced it with their newest wizz bang (but worse sounding) board the JP-80 will be still sought after by people as the fattest ever VA synth.
The Integra 7 will be to the JP-80/50 what the MKS-80 was to the JP-8/6 .....close but not quite there.

[anotherscott]

Effects:
we are back at ONE FX per part if I read the specs correctly. So, we can again start to discuss how to create a organ with rotary and overdrive...

Interestingly, that does seem to have been somehow addressed. Check the demo page at http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=266863930002
and listen to the one labelled "C3 Rock 3 [#0061]" -- it has rotary and overdrive.

[billw]

That sounds like the same crappy set of Hammond samples that show up in the Ultimate Keys SRX board. In fact, both of the organ samples sound terrible. I would bet the I7 only supports a single MFX per part.

[JunoJohn]

£1,199.00 including VAT…

blah… blah… blah…

So in the US maybe $1499.

Sweetwater has $1999.00. That's not so nice.

[Dany]

But can the INTEGRA-7 devalue the JP-80/50 anyway, since it offers all the SINGLE SN-Acoustic and SN-Synth Tones from the JP-80/50?
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I don't think so .... The JP-80 will have the same issue nearly all original concept Roland Synth's have had over history. What Roland is marketing it for (SN acoustic sounds, Performance keyboard) is not what end users will come to appreciate it for (The amazingly deep synthesis capabilities)
In 10 years time ...long after Roland have discontinued it for poor sales or replaced it with their newest wizz bang (but worse sounding) board the JP-80 will be still sought after by people as the fattest ever VA synth.
The Integra 7 will be to the JP-80/50 what the MKS-80 was to the JP-8/6 .....close but not quite there.

Good points!

[anotherscott]

That sounds like the same crappy set of Hammond samples that show up in the Ultimate Keys SRX board. In fact, both of the organ samples sound terrible. I would bet the I7 only supports a single MFX per part.

Could be. Maybe they managed the rotary + overdrive in that demo by "cheating" and using an SRX sound that already had the overdrive "baked into" the sample.

[Devnor]

That's how it's done on the JP80.

[PauloF]

That sounds like the same crappy set of Hammond samples that show up in the Ultimate Keys SRX board. In fact, both of the organ samples sound terrible. I would bet the I7 only supports a single MFX per part.

Could be. Maybe they managed the rotary + overdrive in that demo by "cheating" and using an SRX sound that already had the overdrive "baked into" the sample.

Don't forget that the i7 can have up to 4x SRXs loaded! they could have done that sound using several different organ patches at the same time. Lots of possibilities there

[SoundworldA.D.]

Well that's it then lads. Ordered the Integra-7 from my local music retailer today and they are showing a release date of 9/26 which just happens to be the Doogenator's 56th birthday. I figure a bloke couldn't ask for a better birthday present than to have an Integra-7 waiting for him (or, at least ordered).

My SRX-04 for the XV-5080 just arrived today so it looks like in combination with the Complete Ochestra SRX already in there and in conjunction with the I-7 the Soundworld is going to have some serious Symphonic power.

Let the I-7 soon become an integral part of the Soundworld Experience!

And the Jupiter-80 says "what about me?" What with all of the recent V-Synth patch collection work with cello and the excitement over this new instrument the JP is getting jealous!

[cello]

Well that's it then lads. Ordered the Integra-7 from my local music retailer today and they are showing a release date of 9/26 which just happens to be the Doogenator's 56th birthday. I figure a bloke couldn't ask for a better birthday present than to have an Integra-7 waiting for him (or, at least ordered).

My SRX-04 for the XV-5080 just arrived today so it looks like in combination with the Complete Ochestra SRX already in there and in conjunction with the I-7 the Soundworld is going to have some serious Symphonic power.

Let the I-7 soon become an integral part of the Soundworld Experience!

Congratulations mate! It sounds a powerful beastie - Delivery here is touted as Mid-October... I'm going to try it :)

And the Jupiter-80 says "what about me?" What with all of the recent V-Synth patch collection work with cello and the excitement over this new instrument the JP is getting jealous!

LOL! But! - the JP-80 is getting a treat too; the legacy collection :)

[SoundworldA.D.]

Quite the unexpected surprise! And we just sit back with a twinkle in our eye, knowing that the patient and content are rewarded for their patience and contentedness.

And to the malcontents, we say, "We played wedding songs, and you didn't dance, so we played funeral songs, and you didn't mourn."

And so it goes..."quot homines, tot sententiae!"

[keys]

Some basics here -
I take it the 16 parts means you could, for instance, take 4 instruments off each of 4 different SRX packs and layer, split, velocity mix these 16 parts in one live performance set ?
Are there any arpeggios on board ? -If so - how many at one time
Is it possible to have a drum track running from the Integra ?

At the moment I have Fantom X with my fave four SRX boards, plus Jupiter 80. But using Fan X live is such an upheaval that I am wondering if the Jupiter 80 plus Integra midi'd up, gives an equivalent set up.

[anotherscott]

At the moment I have Fantom X with my fave four SRX boards, plus Jupiter 80. But using Fan X live is such an upheaval that I am wondering if the Jupiter 80 plus Integra midi'd up, gives an equivalent set up.

If all you're using the Fantom X for is to access the sounds on the four SRX cards, I'd say the answer is yes. Though for that matter, if that's all you need, you don't even need an Integra-7, you could accomplish the same thing (a rack module to add 4 SRX cards to your Jupiter 80) with existing modules like an XV-5080 or Fantom XR. Since you already own the 4 cards you want, that would be a lot cheaper.

[epu]

This product is such trash. This is coming from a long time supporter, fan and user of Roland products. I am a former fanatic owning at one point nothing BUT Roland products.

Having since moved on to soft synths (to which I can clone drives and use indefinitely on the same HW/SW config even if it breaks down) w/deeper editing, more memory and more possibilities, I was looking forward to a new MODERN Roland Product.

This isn't it. The 4SRX Slot limitation is appalling in 2012, so is the lack of internal flash memory for new waves for expansions. So is the lack of DAW integration.

I got tired of the proprietary nature and limitations of Roland products as we moved into the Mid-2000s era. I just sold my XV5080 (which I loved and used almost exclusively) and am glad I didn't purchase the Fantom XR (though I think even THAT is better than this product at the moment).

Come on! Memory is cheap these days. Half of the waves on these boards are from their 1990s S700 series collections, and tech has moved leaps and bounds over the last 5-10 years. I have my entire 128GB sample library on an SSD and it loads in milliseconds. I have access to all of my sounds and more.

Irrespective of price, Roland should have ALL 12SRX slots available, ALL SRN, throw in some Flash Memory (4 - 16GB) so they can let you pay for and download expansions (Roland should have an Avid like account on ther site and let their hardware serial # match the Expansion download) and let this be used via VST/AAX/RTAS/DX. 256-512 Note Polyphony in 2012.

Then you'd have a soft synth killer. Something like that could be used now and 20 years from now. You wouldn't have to worry about iLoks, etc.

For just a FEW HUNDRED more, I can go to reFx and purchase/download Nexus 2 and have over 6000 sounds (many them sounding EXACTLY like the Roland patches I love) in a JV/XP/XV style interface and box attached to my iLok to which I can use in any DAW.

Though I love software now, I would be happy with a box that is able to be COMPUTER CONTROLLED, HAS ROOM FOR EXCELLENT SAMPLE LIBRARIES WITH DEPTH (Memory) AND HAS ACCESS TO ALL SOUNDS WITH EFFECTS ON ALL SOUNDS IN THE BOX TO BE USED ON ALL 16 SOUNDS (if that's the limitation, the XV5080 had 32 parts) AT ONCE.

It might sound like I'm being demanding, but I can do this on my software boxes without skipping a beat.

[anotherscott]

This product is such trash.

What you want is a completely different device (which would be a nice one), but the fact that this isn't what you want doesn't make it trash. I do wish they had permitted a slot to install at least some amount of user memory (and I'm surprised that Yamaha hasn't included one of their XF memory sockets in an updated XF version of their XS Rack by now). But this is still a cool box.

WIthin its hardware constraints, it would have been nice if, instead of loading an entire SRX card, you could load a portion of one (i.e. just the programs you want, with their associated waves), so you could create your own 4-slot "best of SRX" collection with sounds drawn from any combination of cards, up to the limits of the memory provided.

But getting back to what you were saying, Roland is not selling hardware, they are selling sounds. Think of the entire unit as a dongle for a sound library (mostly their new SN ones, with the legacy SRX ones thrown in as a bonus). If the sounds are valuable to you, the device is good; if not, then not. For the foreseeable future, if you want massive libraries of sound samples, as it sounds like you do, Roland's not going to be for you, because their direction is now toward modeling.