It arrives this morning...!!!

[keyplayer14]

Hi all, new here and writing this while looking out of the window waiting for the courier to arrive with my Jupiter 80....which will be moving in with my Kronos 88 and V-Synth GT. Time goes really slowly when you're waiting for something important!

[knolan]

Lovely! Hope you enjoy it. It's a monster (got mine recently and still awaiting insertion into a new home studio setup). Yours is going into a very nice setup - I own an OASYS and V-Synth GT and all three make for a very potent combination.

Enjoy!

Kevin.

[cello]

I'm constantly amazed at the number of folks that have what is becoming a common set-up; Jupiter 80, V-Synth and the OASYS/Kronos!

I'm waiting for my V-Synth to arrive early May :) - and have the OASYS and the JP-80 as my 'plugged-in' rig.

Hope you enjoy your JP-80 - you're going to have a blast and regularly pat yourself on the back on what a good decision you took! :)

[PauloF]

Hi all, new here and writing this while looking out of the window waiting for the courier to arrive with my Jupiter 80....which will be moving in with my Kronos 88 and V-Synth GT. Time goes really slowly when you're waiting for something important!

Enjoy your JP-80 !! I'm sure you will be amazed by what it does

[Devnor]

Congrats!

[Bruce Lychee]

I have the exact same combo of the Kronos 88, V GT and Jupiter 80. I think you will really enjoy paying the Jupiter. It is a great match for the sound design capabilities of the V. I've had some teething problems with my Kronos but really enjoy the EPs.

[RayS]

I have the exact same combo of the Kronos 88, V GT and Jupiter 80. I think you will really enjoy paying the Jupiter. It is a great match for the sound design capabilities of the V. I've had some teething problems with my Kronos but really enjoy the EPs.

Bruce from what I have read, I believe I would call all the build and keybed issues you have had with Kronos more than just "teething" problems. Hope you get it all worked out! Jupiter 80 does it all for what I need at the moment.

[keyplayer14]

I have the exact same combo of the Kronos 88, V GT and Jupiter 80. I think you will really enjoy paying the Jupiter. It is a great match for the sound design capabilities of the V. I've had some teething problems with my Kronos but really enjoy the EPs.

Bruce from what I have read, I believe I would call all the build and keybed issues you have had with Kronos more than just "teething" problems. Hope you get it all worked out! Jupiter 80 does it all for what I need at the moment.

I think more than a few of us have had issues with the Kronos, but mine are sorted now and I wouldn't be without it. As for the Jupiter.....well it's rather good, isn't it ?!!

[kokocalamar]

The Kronos & Jupiter-combo is a great one!

Two extremely powerful instruments, I feel blessed actually.

(Today I also added the Novation Ultranova: lot's of fun for a low price!)

And to keyplayer14: congratulations, have fun!!

[Rocness]

I actually have a similar set up with Jupiter-80 and Oasys and now a Yamaha Motif XF.

The Motif XF is actually an amazing synth it sounds very warm in a way that Korg could never sound .
It has over 7000 beautiful Arps that you now can combine with Karma 3 ! (thats right Karma 3! it's about to be released any day now ! ) and it has beautiful wireless ipad apps .
The motif XF has a great sequencer and editor and flash memory that holds all your samples so you don't have to reload them .All efxs stay with the sounds so you can just create like on JP-80 . Then the icing on the cake is that it streams 16 channels strait to your DAW in perfect harmony .
The Motif XF is a class act, it may not have all of the so called engines of the Kronos but I would pick it over the Kronos every time .

The Kronos is nice but every thing on it seems like a afterthought and a rush job . From the terrible keybed and cheep synth feel , unexpected shut downs ,2 minute load times , ridiculous tiny touch screen , combi mode you still have to copy all effects and you still can't edit sounds like in program mode ,sequencer still the same from the 90's even the M3 has a better sequencer ,go figure and now even still it continues a year later with the release of that unusable editor . I can't believe Korg made people wait a year for that cheesy editor.Then they gave some people new keybeds and some people didn't get them .The Kronos is just a $4000 nightmare . All of these problems really ruin the experience of buying a new synth . I won't be surprise if Oasys prices go up in the future because Kronos is no replacement for it .

Trust me the Motif XF has none of those problems and pairs up so sweet with the Jp-80 and it's beautiful craftsmanship .

I'm glad Roland took there time with the JP-80 it shows .

The cool thing about the Motif XF and JP-80 together is that you can jump in and out of ipad apps on both synths for a seamless workflow , fun fun fun !

[mojkarma]

I don't understand why you have again the need to bash a keyboard which you don't own. You should instead spend your time and learn the basic functions of the tools you actually own. It is really getting annoying to read your nonsense.

All efxs stay with the sounds so you can just create like on JP-80 .

Not true. Neither for the motif, nor for the jp80. The motif copies the inserts for up to 8 parts. After that there are no inserts at all. On the jp80 only the liveset effects are "copied". For the perc/solo part you can't copy even manually. You have to create the effects manually every single time you use those parts.

The Motif XF is a class act, it may not have all of the so called engines of the Kronos but I would pick it over the Kronos every time .

Interesting. On the JP80 every supernatural sound is considered as an engine, but suddenly the same doesn't apply to the Kronos and suddenly it becomes a "so called" engine.

The Kronos is nice but every thing on it seems like a afterthought and a rush job . From the terrible keybed and cheep synth feel , unexpected shut downs ,2 minute load times , ridiculous tiny touch screen

There is nothing I hate more than when a person get lost in space and time and instead of making music devotes his complete life into talking bullshit and bashing other products. You are so pathetic. Don't you see it?
What is the purpose of listing problems for a keyboard you don't own? That makes your points really "valuable". The jp80 keybed is more than terrible for playing any piano related sound. You would know that if you would actually use the jp80. Regarding the display, the jp80 has more than one page on the display with really tiny fonts and parameters which are really hard to select. Not to mention that the UI is not really created for a touch display. Besides that, not every kronos user experience every problem you listed here.

combi mode you still have to copy all effects and you still can't edit sounds like in program mode

Yes. You have to copy the effects because you don't understand the effect structure. BTW, can you copy effects on the JP80? How do you copy the same settings for an effect on the JP80? Editing sounds? Can you edit sounds on the JP80 in the solo or percussion mode? You can edit sound on the motif but not in the performance mode. You have to be in the song mode. Please, learn the tools you use and don't talk lies to people here. Newbies usually know that they are newbies and don't judge tools while they are still scratching the surface.

,sequencer still the same from the 90's even the M3 has a better sequencer ,go figure and now even still it continues a year later with the release of that unusable editor .

What is the point in talking about the sequencer while the jp80 doesn't have a sequencer at all? At least, the Kronos has a 16 channel audio sequencer and the motif has none. Again. Learn how to use the tools you have and don't talk about things you know nothing about.
What are your problems with the sequencer on the Kronos?
What are your problems with the editor on Kronos?

I can't believe Korg made people wait a year for that cheesy editor.

I can't believe that Roland needed one year to implement serial effect chaining into the jupiter and finally providing some more than basic effect structures which Korg can do for more than twenty years. Can you believe that a Fantom G user still can't create a hammond organ with leslie and overdrive?! That is the flagship workstation from Roland. Can you believe that you couldn't load a single patch or registration on the jp80 when it was released? Something so basic like that!? You can do that on a Korg M1 from 1988. But you can't do that on the Fantom G from 2008 or on the JP80 before the 1.1 update.
Do you really want to talk about believing?
Please, tell me how to apply a vibrato on a supernatural synth tone with aftertouch on the JP80.
Answer this question to me and I'll apologize to you for every single word I said here.

Then they gave some people new keybeds and some people didn't get them.

Those with problems got a new keybed and those without problems didn't. What's your problem with that? Do you understand the principles of basic logical solutions? People with problems get sorted out. People without problems have nothing to be sorted out. What part of this logical statement(s) you do not understand?

The Kronos is just a $4000 nightmare .

Says a person lacking the basic understanding about keyboards and with an incredible energy to spend his time for useless bashing. One of the two or three persons that ruined this forum. For one sold JP80 there are at least 10 if not 20 sold "nightmares". Either all those buyers are dumb, or it's the other way around.
What's the point in spending the same amount of money for a jp80 with no sampler, no additional sound, no forum support, no sequencer, with a "so called" supernatural engine while the same is well known on the Tyros for at least 8 years, with limited effects, with limited user memory, with a bad keyboard not suitable for piano, e. piano, with a terrible hammond emulation lacking everything, from effects to real time controlling possibilities, with a pathetic lack of real time controller options, with registration selecting buttons placed where they are not selectable because of the keyboard stand, ...
Try this:
instead of using two keyboards, imagine to use just one. Now, try to see how far you can go with the jp80 and how far you can go with the Kronos. That will show how well the keyboards are thought out. At the same price.
One single point: Why on earth are those separate outputs on the jp80 set on the system level, instead on the registration level? Do you understand what I'm talking about? Why should I dedicate a part to those subouts on the system level instead on the registration level. That means: instead of sending a part of a registration to those separate subouts WHEN I need it, I have to send them out for EVERY single fucking registration. I just wanted to send the upper live set containing an organ to my external Ventilator effect, but thanks to those idiots at Roland, all sound of my upper live set are going into the Ventilator (http://www.neo-instruments.de/en/ventil ... r-features). You really want to talk about nightmares? Get a Roland keyboard and learn who invented a nightmare.

Trust me the Motif XF has none of those problems and pairs up so sweet with the Jp-80 and it's beautiful craftsmanship .[/code]

Nobody here asked you to make a comparison between the motif and anything else. You are the one besides another member here with the need to constantly compare to the Kronos. There is absolutely nothing to trust you. What do you know about problems? Have you find one single bug on the JP80? I found one within two days. Put simply, the motif has his strong points and his very weak points. The same applies to any other keyboard, including the Kronos. Don't ask people to trust you while at the same time you don't know even the basics about either the motif, nor about the JP80 and especially not the Kronos.

I'm glad Roland took there time with the JP-80 it shows .

The cool thing about the Motif XF and JP-80 together is that you can jump in and out of ipad apps on both synths for a seamless workflow , fun fun fun !

Where's the ipad app for the JP80? How do you know that it's cool? What's the purpose of the ipad app if you have the touchscreen?

Besides all that, what drives a person to talk the same bullshit over and over again?

[Rocness]

Ahh relax dude , it's just my 2 cents noting more and the cursing is so unnecessary .

Out of respect for this forum I won't get into a long debate with you here .
Meet me in the free zone and we can talk there ok.

but as far as

Where's the ipad app for the JP80? How do you know that it's cool? What's the purpose of the ipad app if you have the touchscreen?

Well here it is .
Looks cool to me .
And it free's you up to do other things like view levels .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drsW4He1fHo

[Devnor]

Guess the obvious thing about the iPad app is the Jupiter will finally have "controllers". What remains to be seen is how well the apple touch screen responds. I think Roland is on the right track developing for iOS vs. farming out a buggy editor running in a DAW.

[RayS]

I don't understand why you have again the need to bash a keyboard?

Do you own either a Kronos or a JP80? Hard to believe someone would actually defend all the problems with the Kronos... and its pathetic inferior build quality?

[keyplayer14]

Sheesh....

Just for the record, there are things about the Kronos which I've been critical of over at Korgforums and I did have a mild case of the note cutoff problem, now resolved....but overall I'm very happy with it, do a lot of gigs with it and find it copes brilliantly. So I didn't really come here to start re-hashing those same old arguments ( "pathetic" inferior build quality? Just trash talking nonsense I'm afraid....).
Now it just so happens I've got a Jupiter too...which after a few days I also think I'm going to be very happy with. Is it "better"?....well, it's apples and oranges, both have their limitations and flaws, but they both sound great, and they're both going to help me make a lot of music. Maybe we could talk about that.....?