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I have been wanting 2 erase all the drum kit sounds and Rythm patterns in the user memory 4 a while now but don?t know how 2. Am not lazy. I?ve been trynna read through the manual 2 find the answer but I might b missing something.

I just want 2 have my own kits and rythms patterns in there u know. Has anyone had any luck doing this? I do know that it?s o.k 2 do this in the user memory since it?s rewritable and there?s always a buckup in the preset memory.

Help appreciated.

Why do you need to erase all of them?

u mite b missing sumthing b-cuz u dont seem 2 b 2 good with standard English.

Seriously though, a lot of people won't even respond or try to help you if you can't bother yourself enough to write correct sentences.

The user area is pretty much a copy of what's in the preset area but a bit mixed up to look like its new

I used the PC Librarian software to overwrite all the user areas with INIT patches, perfs, arps etc. I don't think there is an easy way to clear everything without the software. Someone might mention formatting a card and copying the fans.svd file to the user area. But if you're going to do that, just use the card!

Don'y rely on resetting back to factory settings to recover a small number of patches or patterns. Your only choice is to reset everything - pretty annoying if you only want to get a few things back. Use the librarian software if you can.

I thought I would need to write lots of user patches and rhythm sets, but because sequences store the entire current perf, patches and rhythm sets you don't need to store that much in the user area. This is a wonderful feature which doesn't seem to get a mention here or on other workstation forums. Every sequence can have tweaked patches and rhythm sets - you don't need to save an entire rhythm set just because you changed the pan of a couple of sounds. Wow. And no on seems to care...

db

I agree with LivePsy. The Librarian is definitely the way to erase the User area. Just initialize as stated.

Also, using the Librarian will allow you to save the current User area Patches, etc., as an .fxl file that you can load back in anytime you want if you need to get something back. Could come in handy at some time.



PS: It is a bit easier reading posts that don't substitute numbers for words. When I first read your post I had to be sure that I wasn't going to confuse what you were saying with tracks settings, parts setting, or something like that, . Saves you time typing, but makes it a bit slower to read.
Just my opinion. Do as you wish, of course . . . . .

Bassman

I?ll try that. Sorry am just used to typing like that to save time. Most people do that in most forums and sms?s as well.

As for tha "apostrophe", my computer types it like it should but when it appears on the forum somehow theres a question mark instead. Don?t know why though.

To answer your questin DANSGOLD, I have better (in my opinion) drum samples and since I know I won?t be using neither the preset nor the patternes in there, might as well delete them and use the space 4 something else. I am not a preset fan.

N?wayz......I mean Anyways thanxx......ooops...thanks for the help LivePsy and bassman. I?ll definately try that.

Yikes, it's that my provider changed the db to UTF-8 and this forum is in ISO, I gotta change this.

Oh..O.K. That?ll be great. Kinda wondered why everybody elses typo was fine but mine.

A little help here though. I opened the Fantom X Librarian on my mac, and on the fantom X but I don?t know what to do next.

I know that you can read or write the patches/rythms/patterns on the computer, but what do I do precisely if I want to ovewrite them. I select and mark the names I want to delete and then what? Am trynna do thangs carefully. Hate to screw up on something irreversable.

Once again, help is truly appreciated.

The Librarian is pretty weird. When you first start it up, the window with INIT patches (its called Main) it is the ONLY window you can send things to, and receive things from the Fantom. You need to open other windows to save things or load from your mac. You have to copy and paste between two windows.

If you want to initialize all patches on the Fantom, this is really easy. Click the Write All button. Whatever you see in the patchs listed there will be stored on the Fantom User patch area overwriting whatever was there before. Since everything is INIT in the list when you first start the librarian, thats' what will end up on the Fantom after the Write All.

If you change the drop down list called Mode and do Write All for each time, you will clear everything in the User area of the Fantom.

You will be surprised to find that when you check the Rhythm Group, Arp, Chord after writing all the INIT data that they still contain the factory settings. You need to change each to something else and then back to the original value to load the cleared settings. For example, Rhythm Group will still look like the factory setting. Change the Rhythm Group to U02 and then back to U01 - it will then show the cleared settings.

B

Well, it seems there may be a misunderstanding. You cannot erase the samples which make up the default/factory Rhythm Sets or Drum Kits. Those are a part of the ROM, and cannot be erased.

So you gain nothing - in terms of available sample time - by deleting the default kits.

I was asking why you feel the need to erase the factory kits, patterns, etc. Since you can overwrite any of them with anything you choose, there is no need to erase them ahead of time.

Perhaps it makes you feel more comfortable knowing that there is "nothing there" ... fair enough. Just understand that you don't really gain anything by doing so.

Perhaps you just want to approach things like I used to do when I got a new synth. When I got my Prophet5 - for instance - I deleted all of the factory patches the first day. My "synthhead ethic" was such that I knew this would force me to learn the machine, and that I would then know that everything on it was my own "original creation". I respect that ... there's no better way to learn the capabilties of a machine than "wiping it down to the metal" and starting from scratch!

I'm not really a preset fan either, BTW. I'd just hate to see you go through the trouble of deleting the internal kits (which deletes the patches for those kits, but not the ROM samples they use) thinking you are going to gain some available sample time, and then find out differently.

Didn?t think of it that way. But I hear you. It makes sense. I?ll just overwite the old settings with my own new ones.

It sure would feel good to have all that factory settings out of my fantom though.

But hey...