Volume drop in Resampling
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buminbeer2
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Volume drop in Resampling
Fantom X6 - This is a great site by the way and got a few good answers from my 1st post, try the 2nd one! When I record a killer sequence and listen through my Boss monitors, sounds like a class A studio. The problem is when I resample to export to the computer for burning and converting to MP3's, it drops about 1/2 in volume and I lose the "punchyness" (if that's a word) in sound. Things sound more muddy and not clear even if I turn the volume up. I use Audacity to convert the sample (wave) to MP3, but the wave itself seems to lose a lot when playing it from the cpu. Anyone got ideas? Can I convert them better from the Keyboard before it gets to the cpu? I do not have a stand-alone cd burner (at this point) and just want it to sound as good from my speakers playing direct as when I convert it to the cpu. Thanks a million and this site Rocks!
Resampling adjustments in Audacity
Hi,
In a past answer, Artemiy answered that comes from the way the sampling is done on the Fantom.
With a few tricks you can get things very nicely from Audacity:
- First, in Audacity perform a "normalize": take a look at your signal and look for some "isolated peaks" might be from a percussion, or another instrument with transitories. If the normalization did not get significant results, try to lower these peaks with an envelope. But ONLY the peaks.
- Second, once you've got some visible result, perform an equalization: try the "disco smile" (the equalizer emphasizes the lowest and highest frequencies and the diagram of the buttons looks like a smiley)
- Third: you might compress a bit: try also the Fantom's mastering effect when playing your resampled song.
- Fourth: always keep a copy of the preceding version and keep on comparing before/after.
Important: don't equalize too much. I was surprised how effective is this effect on Audacity - you risk of masking sounds from the middle frequencies.
Good luck
Gabriel
In a past answer, Artemiy answered that comes from the way the sampling is done on the Fantom.
With a few tricks you can get things very nicely from Audacity:
- First, in Audacity perform a "normalize": take a look at your signal and look for some "isolated peaks" might be from a percussion, or another instrument with transitories. If the normalization did not get significant results, try to lower these peaks with an envelope. But ONLY the peaks.
- Second, once you've got some visible result, perform an equalization: try the "disco smile" (the equalizer emphasizes the lowest and highest frequencies and the diagram of the buttons looks like a smiley)
- Third: you might compress a bit: try also the Fantom's mastering effect when playing your resampled song.
- Fourth: always keep a copy of the preceding version and keep on comparing before/after.
Important: don't equalize too much. I was surprised how effective is this effect on Audacity - you risk of masking sounds from the middle frequencies.
Good luck
Gabriel
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buminbeer2
- Posts: 72
- Joined: 01:45, 2 March 2009
- Location: Lawrenceburg, KY
Re: Volume drop in Resampling
Thank you, the "normalize" worked great and is now the volumes it once was 
Re: Volume drop in Resampling
All samplers do this.
They assume that you sample the signal as hot as possible without clipping. They reduce the level (attenuate) of samples in the digital domain to allow for later mixing with other samples without clipping, and to allow for pan law when panning samples in the mix.
MV-8*00 has a system setting whereby the user can specify the playback attenuation: -9, -6, -3, 0dB. Default is -9, so sample sound much quieter and less punchy than the live signal. This is a primary reason that the MV sounds 'less punchy' than Akai MPC samplers. All you have to do is push the fader or Master level up a bit to restore it.
Does the Fantom have a similar user setting?
They assume that you sample the signal as hot as possible without clipping. They reduce the level (attenuate) of samples in the digital domain to allow for later mixing with other samples without clipping, and to allow for pan law when panning samples in the mix.
MV-8*00 has a system setting whereby the user can specify the playback attenuation: -9, -6, -3, 0dB. Default is -9, so sample sound much quieter and less punchy than the live signal. This is a primary reason that the MV sounds 'less punchy' than Akai MPC samplers. All you have to do is push the fader or Master level up a bit to restore it.
Does the Fantom have a similar user setting?