is there an easier way to do drums in the g?

[tablist56]

i asked about this before and was told to do it like this but it seems to be too much trouble...

anyways, below is how i was told to do it...

by editing my own rythym patterns (storing them in the banks) and recording them into the song recorder bit by bit.

i like creating trance music, and alot of the tracks i want to do have complex drum patterns and drum rolls which are always changing. if i edit a rythym pattern and record it into the g, then later want to change the position of a few of the drums, i need to change the whole rythym pattern again and re record it. it just takes too long!


is there a way i can input the drum notes step by step?
which will give me the flexibility to move individual hits whenever i need too without having to re record like i do with the other method?

how does everyone else go about it?

i ideally id like to program the drums in cubase with the mouse then be able to import that info into a midi track in the juno.

i dont know how to do this or if its possible with the equipment i have.

i did try searching "arranging drums in juno" but nothing at all came up

[tablist56]

can anyone make any suggestion?

[Radek]

can anyone make any suggestion?

The problem is Juno-G has only a linear sequencer and doesn't have pattern functionality like in full Fantoms.
You might to try to record patterns in a realtime by hand. Unfortunately pianoroll isn't exactly fast for inserting notes but you might try it too as well.

An another possibility would be use arp for drum step like pattern recording. It has a proper grid but again you'd have to record output of arp to a track anyway.

You can sample output of (or import loops) drums into audio track then arrange them from here. Juno-G can timestretch so it'd be workable.

I know it's not sounding like much of help but I don't have any other ideas. Frankly it's just a Juno-G's trait to not have pattern sequencing.

[Doktor Bro]

"i ideally id like to program the drums in cubase with the mouse then be able to import that info into a midi track in the juno."

METHOD A

1) Connect PC and Juno via USB or MIDI
2) Set Cubase=MIDI-master
3) Set Juno=MIDI-slave

METHOD B

1) Export the Cubase-drum-track as a MIDI-file
2) Import it in Juno

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[tablist56]

thanks for your help guys...

i looked into this a bit further last night, i pressed shift rec and that took me to an editor which enables me to input notes one by one but its too time consuming. its also very hard to see what your doing because you can only see a few beats at a time and you cant zoom in/out. i think the recording ARP way which radek mentioned would give me the same issue. ie, id have to re program the arp and re-record to make little changes. too much hassle i think.

doktorbro:

with the method A and B you mentioned, will i be able to hear the output through the juno's headphones whilst programming them into cubase? i think with method A i should right?

but method B, would just be a matter of inputtting the midi signals with the mouse, then importing it into a midi track in the juno before i got any sound yeh?

[Ori]

Hi there,

When using the Juno with cubase via USB midi set the Juno as MIDI-slave and Cubase as MIDI-master (as said above).
When recording midi in cubase to the Juno you select the Juno as the midi input (presuming you aren't using an external midi controller), and midi output.
If using midi-through you will hear the Juno through your headphones while sequencing, and downloading a patchname script will allow you to set patches from the software.
I find (with my X8) that by filtering out certain control changes (volume, pan, prog change etc) in Cubase I can retain the functionality of the Fantoms interface whilst getting the ease of use of a software sequencer. This could also prove useful with the Juno.
If you have Cubase it really is worth syncing it to your Juno, it will save you a lot of time.

Hope this helps..