Assign slow/fast rotary fx change to a pedal

[jake]

I'm working on the organs and changing the ones that work best to use VK22 Rotary (organ with Leslie cabinet) effect. This effect's most important function is the change from Slow to Fast speed which is now assigned to the Modulation lever. I have to reach over and push/hold the lever forward when I want Fast speed and let go when I want to return to Slow speed, i.e., can't use left hand to play live. Can I assign this change in effect speed to one of the Hold or Control pedals with a pedal switch connected? In live organ performance the speed switch is a 2-position toggle type usually mounted on the front of the organ keyboard and connected to the Leslie speaker. It's flipped back and forth between slow to fast speed regularly during play for effect, but stays where it is, fast or slow, until switched back to the other position. I want to do this with a footswitch. Thanks, jake

jake

[mucsusn]

I haven't fully studied the switch implementations, but I know that you can use footswitches to control the effect. I am at work, so am only working from memory............but there is one patch already in the Fantom or the XV5080 patch bank that utilized the sustain pedal for Leslie on/off. It is momentary, as opposed to you desire for a toggle, but that is a property of the switch itself, not of the control circuit.

So.............find that patch I'm talking about, study the switch implementation in the effects routing, then you can figure out how to transfer that process to the other switch jack. Then buy a simple single button single pole push-button switches (like guitar players use for amp channel switching). Ouila!

Sorry I couldn't be more specific, but you'll learn it better this way anyhow!

[abcd1234]

Yes you can,

Click on menu--> System-->

In the first page, change the Control Pedal Assign to CC01: Modulation. (it's CC11 by default)

Now the Modulation wheel (in this case rotary) is assigned to Control Pedal.

By the way, you need an expression pedal. If you are using a sustain pedal, you should hold your foot on the pedal til you want to go to slow mode. but the expression pedal will work as you want.

March 14th 1984
Music student at Dalhousie
Fantom-X 7

[The-Shadow]

Dalhousie in Halifax, N.S?

The Shadow
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[abcd1234]

Yap!

March 14th 1984
Music student at Dalhousie
Fantom-X 7

[Red Winger]

There's a way to do it only for particular patches without changing all of your cc01 messages to the control pedal for your entire system (as Sam suggests). Call up your patch and hit Effects. Go to your Rotary effect (whether it's MFX 1, 2 or 3) and then hit MFX Cntrl. Assign CC01 to the controll pedal rather than the Mod Wheel. Then, save your patch (you can rename it and save it to a different location if you want). I usually then add those to my favorites so that I can use the pedal to control rotary speed when I want, and use the mod wheel at other times, just by calling up a favorite patch.


That should do the trick, as I believe all of the rotary effects use CC01 to control fast/slow switching.

Cheers,
RW

[mucsusn]

Yes, RW, that's the trick I couldn't remember from work. I've changed most of my organ patches to that........the sustain pedal becomes the Leslie switch.

[jake]

I'm in Performance mode tweaking a couple of organ patches. When I go to MFX1, it says CC01:Modulation. But there doesn't seem to be a way to change CC01 to a different function. Turning the dial just gets different CC#'s, not a change in CC01's assignment if it's the effect speed control CC. Now what? Thanks, jake

jake

[jake]

I got lucky (so far I think) on this one. I pressed Menu and System, went down and turned Continuous Hold Pedal On. Then I went to Mixer, Ctrl Setting, Ctrl Switch and turned the patch I'm working on's Hold switch off - it's checked, so I unchecked it. Then I went to MFX Ctrl and assigned CC64 (Hold) and Sys 4 (Foot Ctrl) to the speed settings. I connected a small Roland sustain pedal on/off type in the Hold jack and got Fast as long as I held the pedal down. When I released the pedal the speed returned to Slow. What do you think? I barely have to touch the pedal with my toe to hold it down, so it seems easy to use.

jake

[jake]

Another thing I found out: I'm working in Performance mode and was trying to put a few organ patches I like together, not to layer, but just to click down and play whichever one I wanted. For the Hold unchecked trick to work, I need the first organ in the group of 3 to still have Hold checked, then the other two are unchecked and I have the Rotary Speed control for them with the little pedal. I'll keep working on this, any ideas greatly appreciated.

jake

[mucsusn]

Try editing in patch mode

[jake]

okay.. Now it works better >grin<

jake

[mucsusn]

Ok, good. Now remember what I said about the push button switches? You can get on of these and program the patch to use the second switch jack on the back of your Fantom. Then you don't have to hold it.

[daztickle]

I'm a very new user, and have read the above posts and was wondering....is it possible to use one of the assignable switches to do the same thing, they both "latch" on and off and if it is possible can someone tell me how to do it in layman's terms!!! thanks guys

[The-Shadow]

Sam, a friend of mine, Keith Torrie goes there too. It's a good school still.

Peace.

The Shadow
One of Three
The Special Projects Division
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UNDISCLOSED LOCATION
Toronto, ON Canada