Recording drums , Each shell individually.

[Synthister Nation]

I've finally finished putting together my interpretation of the drums for a song I'm covering. The beat sounds great, however I want to mix and master them so that the double bass drums are heavy and louder, make the snare have more attack and work with panning on the cymbals and tweak a few other things. All the drums we're recorded on one track. How would I split them up so I can edit each shell/cymbal separately on the computer? I'll be using Sonar. My first idea was to just limit the key range so that only the bass would sound, record that. Then do the same thing for the snare, then the cymbals and so on. Putting each of them on a different track. The keyrange idea didn't work, when I play the song it still plays everything regardless of what I've limited it to.

This literally took me forever to put together and I'd hate to have to redo the whole damn thing. Is there any way to mute a particular part of a track?

[D.U.Soul]

Hi,

I copy the rhythm track to a new song/performance. Then copy the rhythm track onto each of the 16 channels. Then go to the micro edit feature, channel by channel, and eliminate all but one instrument (kick,snare etc.) on each channel. This then allows individual level, pan, reverb, chorus for each percussion instrument.

I am curious to see any other replies to see if there is a better way of doing this.
It would be great if there was some sort of extraction feature that would automatically split up a completed rhythm (with a 16 part limit of course).

cheers

[Synthister Nation]

That's an idea, and it sure sounds better then remaking the whole damn thing. But this still would take a great deal of time. This will take care of having to adjust the accents of each channel. If we don't hear anything back, this will be the method I use. Thanks!

[manishkurup]

You need to use the COPY function within TRACK EDIT to copy the parts that you need to different tracks.

For example:

Copy Notes "F1 - F5" (which may contain drum sounds that you need on track 3) to TRACK 3.

Repeat this for each set of notes that you need on a different track until you have 1 original track and the other tracks with the instruments separated.

Now go to each of the separated tracks and change the MIDI channel so that they point to different parts in the performance - Now you can adjust the volume levels (or anything you wish) for each of these instrument sets (Different parts in the performances).

Hope this helps!

Manish

[D.U.Soul]

That's a good idea. I'll give that a go.

[shakil]

This is one way, and can be done on any workstation.

What Fantom-X offers is a much powerful way of editing the drums.

You can edit each drum sound individually without needing to put on different channel/track.

When you have the drums track selected, press the PATCH button. Now if you press any drums key, you can edit properties for that drums sound.

You can set level, pan, filter, effects sends... etc ... for the current drums sound from the recently pressed key. And you can do all this while your beat is playing back... so you can get the sound exactly as you want.... once you have the sounds as you need... Go back to song and save it. Fantom-X will save everything in that song file.

This is the quickest way of tweaking the drums...

If you wanted, you can also record any automation for individual drums sounds with the track..... endless possibilities.

[Synthister Nation]

Manishkurup, your idea worked like a charm, your a genius! I just finished using your method and now it looks like I have already have a second option I'll mess with Shakil's idea next.

[manishkurup]

Synthister, you're too kind

BTW, I think Shakil's idea is better - wont require you to move stuff around.

I agree - the ability to tweak every parameter on the fly on the Fantom is a pretty amazing feature!

Manish