Name your favorite patches

[louis]

To be honest. I hate my fantom g because imo i wasted a LOT of money on it (got the G8). These days i almost only use it as a midi controller... Still i want to find more use for it.

I will never buy anything new from roland again.

Anyway so feel free to discuss some of your favorite patches!

[Luconia]

out of the box patches that i liked

JP8000 brass
music box (have a couple of it but i choose the main one)
the "I can Transform Ya" robotic sfx :P
some of the trancy pulsating sound which i forget what's the name

btw, i got a G6...(bought it with a hefty price tag considering the poor currency of our country..nearly 3500usd) :(
still proud to have it though..

[BlackMaskAttacks]

My favourite must be any one of the acoustic piano sounds on the Fantom. Piano layered with some pads is what I mostly use when I´m training and learning songs. The only time when I use to scroll around all the hundreds and hundreds of patches is when I´m recording songs in studio mode.
And when I´m recording I try to follow the rule: "Never use the same sound more then one time"
Of course I can take a patch I used before but I always change it so it sounds different.

[Skyke101]

I bought my Fantom G8 almost a year ago. It sounded great when I played it in the Best Buy Music Store at the Tempe Marketplace near Phoenix. So I brought it home and also bought a Roland KC-500 amp for it at Guitar center. $2900 for the G8 (including stand, bench and pedal) and $400 for the amp. I hooked it up and it just did not sound good at all. The organs and synthesizers and electric pianos sounded ok, but the pianos themselves sucked! I found a couple that sound so-so, but the rest of them are just a waste of space. What made it worse is I also own a Yamaha CVP-307, and the pianos on it are unbelievably realistic, which made the G8 sound like a $2900 mistake. I know absolutely nothing about sequencing and programming, but I want to learn and that's why I bought what I figured would be the best tool to learn it with. I took the KC-500 amp back to Guitar Center, tried out all their other amps and powered speakers with their G8 that I dragged into their sound room, and could not find one that sounded decent. I then when to Sam Ash and did the same thing (with permission of course). Finally I found a pair of Electro-Voice bi-amped powered speakers that actually sounded alot better than anything else I heard with the G8. They are the "EV SxA100+" speakers to be exact. And for $1400 they even threw in a pair of stands. So, I now have $4500 invested and I have spent maybe a total of 15 hours playing it in the last year. My Yamaha CVP-307, which probably hogged up well over 200 hours of my time in the last year, just sounds, and feels, so much better that I just don't enjoy playing the G8. but, i bought it because I want to learn how to sequence and program, but it's just so damn difficult to try and learn this machine that I lose interest quickly whenever I sit down with plans to try and learn how to use it. I just don't know where to start, and if the piano sounded half as good as my yamaha, I would spend alot more time on it but the piano sounds just plain SUCK! I did notice and download the mini-manual, hopefully that will give me a leg up on learning this machine. I also noticed that someone came up with what seems to be a good sounding piano, Boricella or something like that, but I haven't the faintest idea how to get that sound into my G8... any pointers? thanks, Scot

[mojkarma]

Skyke101,
that's a nice story how people can waste there money for stuff they absolutely don't need. Next time, before you spend that amount of money, you should better ask on forum where to start and what to buy.
First, your Yamaha is a high quality instrument with great pianos (as almost any clavinova). The Fantom G is simply a different machine. No wonder, that the piano on the FG sounds inferior. Next, you bought a mono speaker (Roland) and wonder why the stereo piano sucks on it.
So, you wasted your money on a useless machine that you absolutely don't need, then you waisted more money for even more useless amp speakers. You should have bought studio monitors for the same or even less money and they would sound incomparable better, instead of buying a mono keyboard amp speaker and then those EV which are more for smaller shows and gigs and not for home use.
After all, your yamaha has the option to record songs!!! Why didn't you try to learn the basics about recording on it instead of wasting 4500 bucks on something that absolutely doesn't make any sense in your situation? It's your money, but it would be far better spent if you have pay for a nice trip or vacation somewhere in the world instead of buying things you absolutely don't need yet.

[BlackMaskAttacks]

I bought my Fantom G8 almost a year ago. It sounded great when I played it in the Best Buy Music Store at the Tempe Marketplace near Phoenix. So I brought it home and also bought a Roland KC-500 amp for it at Guitar center. $2900 for the G8 (including stand, bench and pedal) and $400 for the amp. I hooked it up and it just did not sound good at all. The organs and synthesizers and electric pianos sounded ok, but the pianos themselves sucked! I found a couple that sound so-so, but the rest of them are just a waste of space. What made it worse is I also own a Yamaha CVP-307, and the pianos on it are unbelievably realistic, which made the G8 sound like a $2900 mistake. I know absolutely nothing about sequencing and programming, but I want to learn and that's why I bought what I figured would be the best tool to learn it with. I took the KC-500 amp back to Guitar Center, tried out all their other amps and powered speakers with their G8 that I dragged into their sound room, and could not find one that sounded decent. I then when to Sam Ash and did the same thing (with permission of course). Finally I found a pair of Electro-Voice bi-amped powered speakers that actually sounded alot better than anything else I heard with the G8. They are the "EV SxA100+" speakers to be exact. And for $1400 they even threw in a pair of stands. So, I now have $4500 invested and I have spent maybe a total of 15 hours playing it in the last year. My Yamaha CVP-307, which probably hogged up well over 200 hours of my time in the last year, just sounds, and feels, so much better that I just don't enjoy playing the G8. but, i bought it because I want to learn how to sequence and program, but it's just so damn difficult to try and learn this machine that I lose interest quickly whenever I sit down with plans to try and learn how to use it. I just don't know where to start, and if the piano sounded half as good as my yamaha, I would spend alot more time on it but the piano sounds just plain SUCK! I did notice and download the mini-manual, hopefully that will give me a leg up on learning this machine. I also noticed that someone came up with what seems to be a good sounding piano, Boricella or something like that, but I haven't the faintest idea how to get that sound into my G8... any pointers? thanks, Scot

It´s pretty weird how people think different about things. Before I bought my Fantom I had a Roland FP5 Digital Piano back home. And that is a very good piano. When I started to use the Fantom I realized that I never played on the FP 5 any more. When I search around in the piano sounds on the Fantom...chosed the ones I liked...layered it with some other sounds...pads, strings or bells or anything a common digital piano just falls flat...I´m serious..
I sold my FP 5....
To me its one of the biggest mysteries that peolpe continues to hate the piano sounds on the Fantom...

Enough about that.
About the sequencing on this machine....It takes time to learn to use it properly.
When I bought my Fantom I knew nothing about sequencing/recording what so ever...
Didn´t even knew what quantize was...I Remembered in the beginning how I tried to record some synth drums without the quantize..Ha...Ha...
But when you've learned the basics about the recording on this machine (editing, copying, loop recording etc etc) it becomes pretty easy to use. Dont give up on this....
If you want to learn more about the Fantom buy the Fantom G Tutorial DVD from ProAudio. It´s a good complement to the manual....
You find the DVD at http://www.proaudiodvds.com/product-p/fantom-g.htm

[V-CeeOh]

To be honest. I hate my fantom g because imo i wasted a LOT of money on it (got the G8).

Sorry but that's a pretty ridiculous statement. You hate a instrument because you wasted a LOT of money on it. Still you fail to say why. Does it sounds bad? You don't like the weighted keyboard? The screen is to big for you? Is it to heavy? You don't get around the OS?

I will never buy anything new from roland again.

yeah, you explained very cleary why that won't happen...

Anyway so feel free to discuss some of your favorite patches!

And why should we do that with you? You hate it anyway.

I took the KC-500 amp back to Guitar Center, tried out all their other amps and powered speakers

skyke101
Please do yourself a really big favour and get a pair of reasonably priced studio monitors :-)

[Luconia]

I'll chip in again...now it's about the speakers i used with my G.
I have bought a Leem multipurpose monitor in hoping to play another keyboard (Roland GW-7), guitars & soon to come G6. the other insruments sounds quite nice, loud & live through the speaker. but as soon as i connected the G on it, the sound is under my expectations...whereas when i listened the G via my Sony MDR-V700 headphone it was reasonably great to my ears!
Due to lack of suitable speakers around i refuse to connect the G into any other speakers i have..until i managed to get a better studio monitor :P

[Quinnx.]

All i can say to all this is..
if you want OUT OF THE BOX SOUNDS go buy and dedicated sound module for that purpose and dont buy and workstation/synth.
If you cant be wasting time learning the gear or creating your own sounds dont start with a workstation/synth..

the G is for me future proof
that said I wont be purchasing any more roland gear as they always leave you wanting and waiting..

[louis]

Sorry but that's a pretty ridiculous statement. You hate a instrument because you wasted a LOT of money on it. Still you fail to say why. Does it sounds bad? You don't like the weighted keyboard? The screen is to big for you? Is it to heavy? You don't get around the OS?

lol i won't bother spending time on a long post explaining why i hate them. but...

1. terrible sound quality.
2. terrible fx.
3. terrible sequencer a la 90's
4. very expensive.
5. cost me a lot of time.

i dont know why your offended by the post (do you work for roland?). i'm allowed to hate stuff you know. i expected a great workstation when i saved money for a long time to be able to afford it. i didn't get that.

[Quinnx.]

The G is like a swiss army knife..
You can carved its sound to whatever pleases you or you can you can hate it because someone else didn't
do it for you.

[louis]

The G is like a swiss army knife..
You can carved its sound to whatever pleases you or you can you can hate it because someone else didn't
do it for you.

or you can use something that sounds 10x better then the sounds you get on fantom g. open your eyes to stuff outside roland and you might be amazed to what you find. anyway i'm out.

[Quinnx.]

That a very vague statement..
Your also assuming we have had no exposure to other gear but roland..
give and example and compared to what?
post a sound that is 10 times better that cannot be reproduced equivalent or better with the G

[V-CeeOh]

i dont know why your offended by the post (do you work for roland?). i'm allowed to hate stuff you know.

I'm not offended by the post. But If I was to explain why I replyed to you I would do it in your own terms:
1- Terrible justification for not liking a keyboard
2- Very vague post
3 - Waste a lot of time to tell us nothing

or you can use something that sounds 10x better then the sounds you get on fantom g

Like what? can you tell us or you want to keep it just for yourself?

open your eyes to stuff outside roland and you might be amazed to what you find

And who told you we use exclusively Roland gear?