Question for all you G experts!

[Septimo]

Does anyone -who's heard the G- know if the sound difference is coming from the factory effects settings over the X factory effects settings? Or is the fundamental difference from actual thicker soundwaves? It doesn't seem to me that they would go through all that trouble resampling, re-encoding, thicker waves of the exact same thing....too much un-needed work if you ask me....And will any company invest in such a project? I think that if they were to invest in any sound project would only be the few extra wavs added....if not they'd just scrap the X waves all together and invest in making totally new waveforms if they were going to spend that much attention and money into an already exsisting project...Don't you think?

So that's why I come to the conclusion that it's is actually the same as an X with SRX built in and the only sound difference that can actually exist is in reworked effect settings to the exact patches and on top of that add a few new things and new patches and the new converters to make seem that it is different....Illusionists with audio....Roland rocks....and I totally mean that....

[Artemiy]

Septimo:

The G has some Fantom-X waveforms, some SRX waveforms as well as new ones. "Best of the best" patches from the Fantom-X, Juno-G and SonicCell are there, but most of the patches are new. All effects algorithms are included from the Fantom-X, and there are several new ones (I heard many new great reverbs at least).

As far as the sound quality and character are concerned, this is not due to the waves or patches, it's all about the new sound chip Roland developed, as well as the 24/96 output converters.

[2TIM316]

I wish we could all take a deep breath, consider that Artemiy has had much hands-on experience with the "G", and combined with his vast knowledge of the "S", "X", and Juno-G, is in the best position to make this statement. If he says it sounds better, than I believe it, even without comparing the two side by side. Of course it's gonna sound like a Roland, it's a Roland. Just a better sounding Roland. Enough, already.

[Artemiy]

Thanks, Tim, this is an exact round-up we needed!

[deveshmody]

Will be sequencer files from X transfer over to G? From the earlier posts I take it that the all of patches may not be available and neither will they be in the same order. Okay, so I may have to remap the patches. But will the seqeuncer files play in the new G?
Thanks.

[BigBrotherMotown]

You may have to RE-SAVE all of your sequences as SMF's (Standart Midi Files) first....those SMF's should play FINE in the G after you "Re-Map" as you put it, the proper sounds to those Tracks.........

Which leads me to ponder an Interesting Question......

WHY is this even NECESSARY......

If a Song file is used (Which obviously contains MIDI data) why CANT we transfer it to another piece of gear and have those MIDI files be Recognized/Read without having to RE-Save the project as an SMF???????

It would be similar to getting a text message with a phone number in it....MOST phones have the ability to "SEE" the number in the text and dial it directly by pressing "send".


Maybe I think too much....LOL



I dont know.....

[manishkurup]

... Yes, it seems like the most logical thing that would happen is that you re-save your Fantom X SVQs as SMFs and then go about building your performances and import them into the new song format.

Wouldnt it be cool though, if Roland provided existing Fantom X customers with software (PC/MAC based) that would work on the old format songs and convert them over to the new format maybe in batch mode or something, you know reducing some intensive labour on our parts.

I only say this because I work for a major telecomm equipment provider, and we release a new platform every 2 or so years, but we cannot expect our customers to roll (Hand edit) all their existing configurations manually over to the new format (Lots of people would have to live without internet connectivity, for at least 15-20 days !!).

So what do we do? the first thing we do is provide an EASY migration path for customers to seamlessly move their data over to the new platform in a blink of an eye (This upgrade software is built into the new equipment, and it's pretty tough to do, but it has to be done, and our customers love us for it ..) ... This is one thing I have missed with Roland equipment, but then maybe they are 2 different worlds, and the twain shall never meet ... (And I dont know what Im talking about ... !)

sorry for hijacking your thread Devesh, just my 2c worth ..

Manish

[deveshmody]

when microsoft or adobe come out with new products, imagine if the old files would no longer open in the new product. there would be a huge cry!

i wish roland would come out with a file conversion tool that converts to G any X file with the closest matching instruments and effects! Artemio any hope here? more people would more easily transition from X to G. i would be one of them!

[secret Roland agent]

*Hushed tone*

I really shouldn't be sharing this with you but . . . the conversion is as follows -



Good luck with that!