Booster in patches

[RolandRules]

I'm trying to use that function while creating new patches, but I can get a hold of this function...

I can't make it work first of all, second, what does it do? Does it only boost the volume of the tone/sample?

Or does it also impart a drive, like say in analog synth it would add distortion AND gain?

Thanks!

[Leh173]

You need to change the structure type in the pro edit to be able to use it, as certain structures use it.Type 3 features the booster between two TVF filters. Check the manual p92, it's all in there. Yes, the booster can be used to distort/overdrive waveforms, and some structures allow for some other good tricks too, like ring modulation and creating a 24db per octave filter curves. Do you have Artemiy's Fantom G Tweakbook? It's excellent for learning about this stuff in an easy to read way. The Fantom G booklets on Rolands site are good too.

[RolandRules]

Yes I read the manual.

I tried all the different structures but nothing change the sound remains the same unless I put two tones.

I thought I could boost only one tone. Say I make a patch with only one sound like a simple sine bass.

It only works if I put two, but then it sounds weird, like it's phasing and distorting.

What about that 24db filter youre talking about?

Another filter than the filter already there?

It would be nice to have a lo pass and a hi pass at the same time without using the pfx filter, which is good sometimes but not all the time.

By the way, have any of you guys been able to filter a sound without creating a distorting peak yet?

Everytime I low pass say a kick drum, I get clipping, even if the sound is not clipping in the first place, therefore I concluded that the algorithm of the G filters add some resonance somewhere in the spectrum...

Let me know!

[Leh173]

From memory you need 2 tones on to make the advanced structures work most of the time. You could try turning the TVA level to 0 on the tone you don't want to hear maybe. The 24db filter is achievable with these structures as there are two TVFs wired in series, so it makes a steeper curve. I guess as well you could set either TVF up to an LPF or a HPF if you would like to do that also. Personally I haven't had any trouble with clipping using the filter yet. Not in front on the G right now, so I'm not able to try some of these things out. Hope this helps.

This is a programming guide I read for my JV-1080 once, but it discusses how the structures work, which is applicable to the Fantom G (similar engine).

http://www.synthman.com/roland/support/ ... VPROG.html

[RolandRules]

hey, yeah well after your first post, I went and bought Artemy's guide. 30% off right now so it was a bargain...

7$ for a nice manual, I knew a lot of stuff, but there was many tips that were well worth that money.

I haven't read it toroughly but there's already a few things I'm gotta try tomorrow ;)

I made the structure thing work, and applied two filters to the same tone. I'm just starting using this function but it looks good so far!

Thanks for the heads up!

[Leh173]

No probs! Glad to help. I bought the tweakbook when I bought my FG6 and although I knew quite a bit about Roland style programming already, it had quite a lot of useful information and made me aware of things the Fantom is capable of that would have taken me a while to discover, and there's lots of good programming tips in there. The Fantom G is capable of quite a lot that might not seem obvious at first, but that's the fun of it discovering these things!

[RolandRules]

yes this is a more powerful synth that it looks...I think that's why many people bash it, but it is very complex when you know all the features! ;)

[Leh173]

Yes there are many ways to skin a cat on the Fantom G! Just been playing around with structure 4 to set up the booster and dual TVF filters to get the sharper slope. Working well, getting some great beefy synth sounds just using one or two saw waves, also made a massive JP-8000 style supersaw pad as well. I'm surprised how well the Fantom can make decent analog style sounds. Something I didn't expect to be honest.