Why Roland did't put in Fantom G the GM Finger Bass(legendar

[branko]

All the time I am thinking that you need Bass for Studio.But you play BASS with left hand.Where are you from?
OK.My friends are playing Bass on the FG with left hand and I have heard them alot,But what is really special to me is one friend that only use Factory Bass sounds.He uses two finger sounds.Jazz bass imitation Marcus Miler and atch is named MM Smth Frtl and other bass that he play is JP 6STR and I know how this sounds on a good PA.And also I know your Bass from older Roland keyboards.And I know that Fanto G is much better.And I am not sorry for you.
Why dont you sample Finger Bass from Fantom X or any other keyboard.I think that maybe my friend have all saples of that bass maybe I have.And just make multisample and everything will be OK.
Roland cant put it in ROM.But you can put it in RAM.And it will sound the same if you do some things.And problem solved.NEXT one please?

[fantomboss]

Hi Branko i am from Romania ...i have experience with samples a lot ,i know that sample goes in RAM and after i set it in my own patch MULTISAMPLE (on SINGLE) but when you record somthing automatically the bit range change and frequence so it's not the same like from ROM board...for that i will be very happy if any new OS get in self those finger basses legendary....i have and one question why when i import wave or aiff in FG those all waves have a lot of noise and in computer those waves sound very good and without no noise,but just when i put in Fantom G6 there have noise???i have tried with DE EMPHASIS to set waves but again have a little noise and the quality from EMPHASIS you know going down Hi frecuence....what is the problem i don't know ,i fear maybe somthing is in Keyboard problem,i have 256 mb ram and i unplug the ram but again the same problem (its not to RAM dimm) do you know how can i set this thing ...thanks Branko for your helps all the time cao

[fantomboss]

Why dont you sample Finger Bass from Fantom X or any other keyboard.I think that maybe my friend have all saples of that bass maybe I have.And just make multisample and everything will be OK.



You are right but now i have problem with waves when i put in fantom g6 they have noise ...and in PC are all greattt cause it's not problem i have one friend who have Fantom X6 and i can sampled the Bass on my Fantom G6 but i dont know why this noise of waves

[tranztek]

Not sure about that, as I havent got around to sampling anything at all yet!
- regarding bass sounds - dont forget that you have to transpose them down an octave on a G6 - as the deep notes are mapped an ocatve below where they were on an X6. Ive been playing around with the presets comparing them to your examples and they are very close - the G's better in my opinion because of the better velocity switching.

[fantomboss]

How you mean i don't understand...you mean fantom X are better Basses or fantom G ?

[branko]

fantomboss@
I work with samples about 10 or 15 years now.I have had a Casio fz-1 sampler long time ago.I work in a studio 15 years now.And I know some things OK.
No noise!There is no noise in the FG!
Only thing that you should do is Emphasis and dont do de Emphasis you will lose HIGH freq.
Samples that you put in PC and then Import it into Fantom G are different.
In FG all Samples have a deEmphasis already done.So you in START have less HIGH frequencis then on a PC.And because of that you should have less NOISE in the G and much more NOISE in the PC.
And what I do for some sample is Pre Emphasis because I want Samples to be the same as in PC or anywhere else.But for a Bass gutar these HIGH freq are not relevant.
And when I hear NOISE I am sure that you are not doing something as you should do.
You are doin'g something wrong!
I have had sampling all kind of instruments like old ANALOG synth's and there was no NOISE.
I can make just the same BASS sound as it is in Fantom X or in G1000 or XP30,G600,EM2000.And I have done it already.And there was no NOISE especially when i leave EMPHASIS and don't put Pre Emhasis.
My friend that also love the Finger Bass as you are is one of the best Studio/Sound designers in my country and because he know that I am the best in sampling field he was asked me to sample for him Finger Bass from his G1000 for Fantom G and Korg Pa2x and i did it and we went tohis Studio that is something that I will never have something about 1 milion euros and we turn FG on and G1000 and we played the sample of Finger Bass on the FG and real patch from G1000 and guess what was happening on his 10000 euros monitors and other equipment ?NOTHING!
There was no NOISE at all and because I have sampled every note and Sample dindnt have LOOP bass sounds was the same.
They were the same.
You can do it with your PC and with Fantom G.But make sure that you use Fantom G as a sound card and dont you worry about FREQUENCIES and NOISE.If you know how to do it then no NOISE will apear and no strange FREQ. and no lossing any FREQ.
If you cant do it then call me.
And there is one thing that you should never do and the thing is: don't you touch that Fantom G.Leave it for you and play on that keyboard.You will make Finger Bass multisampl and if you have enough time you will make even better Bass sound on Fantom G.
There was a TOPIC about Emphasis.Artemy did give me an answer directly from Roland factory or something like that.And for anyone who work with samples on FG that is very important TOPIC here on RolandClan.
And please try to sample with PC with some nice programs like Sound Forge or Wave Lab and please do it with USB cable.Just connect PC and FG with USB and use FG as sound Card and also put Fantom X or G600 or what ever on MAXIMUM Volume and use STEREO cable from Fantom X(G600...) in the Fantom G(and check cables,they could make NOISE too) and record it MONO.And recorg every note and dont use Normalize function for every note separate.You can do Normalize for whole File with all notes in it.And do not use Loop's and record every note and you will get a nice BASS which sounds the same and PROBLEM SOLVED.

[fantomboss]

Can you give me that bass from G 1000 please ....???I will send you a lot of my samples created...

[branko]

I will try to find it.And if I dont find it I will ask my friend that I was making Bass for him.And if that is not possible than I will sample it again from XP30 that will be at my home for couple of days.

[Cesarsound]

fantomboss,
I have a XP50 and I recorded a track with it for test. Please listen the attachment.

Is this the bass are you refering?
Julio.

[fantomboss]

I will try to find it.And if I dont find it I will ask my friend that I was making Bass for him.And if that is not possible than I will sample it again from XP30 that will be at my home for couple of days.



Thanks Branko...a want to have that Bass original in my Fantom G6 its ok to be all notes like 100 MB (its not problem for the large MB) just to be original

[fantomboss]

I have a XP50 and I recorded a track with it for test. Please listen the attachment.

Is this the bass are you refering?
Julio.



Yeahhhh Julio that's that Finger Bass that i love ...i will be very very happyyy if anyone help me to sampled that bass for me pleaseee

[Cesarsound]

yes, I cand do it on weekend.

[fantomboss]

Thank you so much Julio ...i will like to have from C 2 to G 4 all tones and semitones ...one not recorded some 15 seconds large minimaly...and i hope that it will sound original thankssss bro

[fantomboss]

Julio,Branko...i am waiting for you friends,for that sample Finger Bass

[special-k]

I sold my Fantom X to get a Fantom G. I recently borrowed a X7 to grab some older sequences and while I had it, I tried to program some of the sounds I had on the X. Generally speaking, the X does sound fuller, BUT, most of the sounds that i tried to duplicate I was able to reproduce on the G with two exceptions. Roland did not include any mks piano samples and deleted some of the EP wavs that are needed to recreate some of the older roland EP's. I wished they would have kept those waveforms and added what they did. I realized the thing I miss most about the X were the 5 years of custom sounds I made, not necessarily what came on it stock. I ended up sampling the kits I made and started adding these samples to my custom G kits really rock the house. Comparing apples to apples, the stock X drum kits were not better than the stock G kits.

The G has a much better sound set than the G when you compare the two side by side. Anyone who thinks the factory sounds of the X blows the G away haven't put the two side by side. When it comes to the sequencer and workstation, the G is a much better machine. The only thing I miss about the X is the ability to edit a phrase in real time in the context of a song. You can do this in the X sequence in both song and pattern mode.