Who of you G-users is disapointed/galled and why?

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Zephyer
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Re: Who of you G-users is disapointed/galled and why?

Post by Zephyer »

"the results are the same
Since this is true then anyone with an X can produce the same production level as the G.
Really, Is that a fact, Can you prove it understanding?

As far as I know no one has given an official word on this. And your human ears probably would not be able to tell the difference with the files Quinnx gave. So unless you have the knowledge and the equipment used to make such a judgment (only Roland would) then it’s not true, it’s your opinion.

But given your statement I assume you understand Quinnx.

So what do you think about the G having 24/96 converters but only outputting waves at 16/44? And if the X and G were the same sonically don’t you think the G would still sound better in every single situation? I mean the X will only come close in a studio if you set it up right ,but it wont be able to compete right out the box. And it will only be in one situation could there be more? I understand Quinnx, and I also understand he’s on somewhat of a mission and I appreciate that. But if you're going to talk about these things then it’s good if you give a little more detail about why it’s important. That way you don’t confuse people by having them think Quinnx is talking about patch quality because he’s not. What he is saying is that both the X and G have excellent sonic quality (Bit depth/Sampling rate).

The patches, What about them?

I think they sound great and I know how to make my own so that means that's all just opinion as well.
Lukeofkeys
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Re: Who of you G-users is disapointed/galled and why?

Post by Lukeofkeys »

What the hell is so interesting about the sound quality of the G compared to the X?
I think most of us agree that the sound is crisp clear and that this aspect is unimpeachable and that this is one good thing about the G (although there are too many bad things about it, according to my opinion!)
Sure, the X may be able to produce the same sounds with the same samples, but hey....it's also just subtractive synthesis based on samples! And there are samples on the G there are better as those on the X and vice-versa!

And for me, the discussion about "good sound" (as far as this phenomenon even exist's?!) is nonsence because such things are too subjective!
Is Rock good music? Nobody knows and nobody cares because some like it and some don't!

Well...and this discussion about sound quality of MP3 files is kinda off topic.... ;)

greets
Zephyer
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Re: Who of you G-users is disapointed/galled and why?

Post by Zephyer »

What the hell is so interesting about the sound quality of the G compared to the X?
Absolutely nothing!

Really, threads like this just confuse people and tend to turn into a leverage game against Roland. So being I understand the tech behind this whole Bit depth/Sample rate thing I’m just trying to clear up some of the confusion. That way people understand they are not somehow getting ripped off by buying a Fantom-G. Just because people want Roland to do something (give updates) does not mean making the G look bad when it’s not is the only way to do it.
And for me, the discussion about "good sound" (as far as this phenomenon even exist's?!) is nonsence because such things are too subjective!
Is Rock good music? Nobody knows and nobody cares because some like it and some don't!
What does that have to do with Bit/sample rate? No one said they prefer one sound over another.
Well...and this discussion about sound quality of MP3 files is kinda off topic.... ;)
When dealing with making judgments about Bit/sample rate how so?
Lukeofkeys
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Re: Who of you G-users is disapointed/galled and why?

Post by Lukeofkeys »

@Zephyer :Well, my previous post was not meant as a direct answer on yours! So no offence! ;)

It's just that I'm watching this thread regularly and the last days people just talk about "Is the Mp3 faked, is the quality good enough to test the sound quality of high end synths? etc...might the X be the better choice...and so on..."

This thread wasn't meant to bring people up against the G and Roland or to stress Roland for new OS updates! I just wanted to know how many people are dissapointed by the G and why this is so! Is it because of personal expectations that the G wasn't able to satisfy or is it because of features the G obviously fails!

edit:
With the "do you like rock" example I wanted to show up and underline the subjectivity of this Mp3- X vs G - discussion.... ;)

so...peace out
Luke
Zephyer
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Re: Who of you G-users is disapointed/galled and why?

Post by Zephyer »

Lukeofkeys, I am not offended nor did I mean to offend you in anyway at all. If I did I’m sorry.

And I completely understand why you created this thread. But trust me, when it comes to giving honest feedback about the G. There are a few members here that will always give a negative view in order to put pressure on Roland to give updates.

Just go and play with one, I’m sure you’ll love it. I have been using synths and workstations for a long time (16 years or more) and I can tell you with all honesty that the G is the best I have used to date.
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