What should the VC-3 be?

[EJ2]

Yes, Roland Legacy: Jupiter, JD800, JD990 (JD800 emulation with all the controls available from the touch screen..), etc.

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[gvance]

How about some advanced sampling capabilities, crossfade looping, autoloop etc. with a software editor specifically for the V Synth, this would be a big help.

Gerald d Vance

[D70]

It would be tempting to place a Digital Signal Processor (DSP) on the card for some extra "bells and whistles", but the system architecture might not be able to utilize such a feature.

The other real plus would be to license a SDK, if open source won’t fly.

It would sure be a shame if VC-2 was the second and last card…

[Jupiter4]

Well, whilst I am very much into new forms of synthesis which is why I bought the V-Synth, I really like the idea of retro emulations. The SRX cards are ok but do not quite hit the spot. I know that Varios exists but not much seems to have happened with it. Maybe because it only have a few skins and it is not truly 'open' being Roland only. So I vote for a Jupiter 8 emulation as it should be easy to implement. I would dearly love a Jupiter 4 emulation but I can't see this happening as there are not enough fans of it. Also a Juno 6 and SH101 emulation should be a good seller. In respect of new synthesis then I also vote for physical modelling. Regards JP4

[fs1r]

since there is no other solution...

a card to expand the USER SAMPLING MEMORY !!!!!!!

15.6 mb is very little !

[JunK]

fs1r, that's what a compact flash card is for. i've got 18 different projects on mine(512mbyte), with plenty of room for more. you can use up to 2 gigs i think. samples are loaded into ram, so a vc3 card with "more user memory" won't get you larger project sizes, with more of your own samples. unless they can make the v-synth read samples direct from disc. but i'm sure this is a hardware limitation and not a software/ os thing.

[dysamoria]

Is there any news on what's going on for the V-Synth and V-Cards? There seems to be an indication that the VariOS is going to be discontinued and there are some great prices on limited quantities of it out there, but it would be pointless if the features and functions of the VariOS are to be wrapped into future updates of the V-Synth/XT. i'm an XT owner myself and am very interested in seeing this product developed further.

[Synthmusician]

JD990 would be cool, also how MKS 50 or 70 emulations? I think maybe a full blown sampler card would be very cool as well. Hey would the V3 be available for the VariOS too??? PLEASE!

Regards
Synthmusician

[gilesjuk]

VC3 should be a Commodore 64 SID chip emulator

[anti_pulse]

No, it should not... and I mean that in the most serious way possible. Sick of nintendo music.

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[nsheldon]

I don't know if Jim is still even reading this thread, and he's probably already been to a few engineering meetings. But I'd just like to agree with anti_pulse's original post requesting a new synthesis method (physical modeling or FM perhaps). I, too, am not particularly interested in vintage synth emulation as this can be accomplished on a plethora of other synths already.

By the way, thanks for starting the thread Jim. You guys keep up the good work.

Regards,

Nathan Sheldon
http://www.nathansheldon.com/

[Synthmusician]

I think it would be awsome if they could come up with a VST plugin card that would allow the VariOS and VSynth synths to use the vast landscape of VST plugins.. Yeah, Yeah I know you can do that on your computer but just think of what you could do with a live VST box

Regards
Mark

[nsheldon]

Hi Mark.

That's a nice idea, though given the 64 MB internal RAM limit as Jim mentioned earlier in the thread (and the fact that the OS takes 14 of that alone) I doubt there'd be enough RAM to be able to use many VST plug-ins. Another factor is that VST plug-ins are compiled for specific architectures (such as Intel or PowerPC CPUs). They MUST be compiled for the CPU architecture which they are going to be used on unless the host system emulates one of those 2 CPU architectures. Though the SH-4 CPU in the V-Synth and VariOS are powerful, it certainly is not powerful enough to emulate an Intel P4 or PowerPC G5 (especially seeing as it only runs at 266 MHz) and that'd be the only way to get VST plug-ins to work on the V-Synth unless the VST plug-in manufacturers recompile specifically for the V-Synth. However, the idea of opening up the V-Synth/VariOS API to 3rd party developers would be an excellent way to promote VST or other plug-ins for the V-Synth.

Regards,

Nathan Sheldon
http://www.nathansheldon.com/

[pau]

Hi Jim,

I've always found the V-Synth's underdeveloped multi-timbral abilities really frustrating. It sounds so good, you want to use a number of sounds at once, and keep their effects intact. Emu has managed hardware acceleration on their Cardbus laptop 1616m (if memory serves) .

I'd like a VC-3 which adds more FX muscle, with insert effects on each sound, ADAT out for streaming 8 timbres to my PC (or even better, streaming via USB). This must be possible?

All the other suggestions are great too. High quality sample engine, 303 and JP8 from VariOS, VariProducer, etc. But I don't want to have to sacrifice my V-Synth engine to use the card's extras. The cards should work in tandem with the V-Synth.

[XyFy]

I still think the VC3 should be more 'open' for example a Modular similar to the Nord would open up these systems a little more. It would be good if the V producer VariOS 8 and VariOS 303 could all work at the same time - Great pieces of software individually which Roland just need to keep tweaking by adding more features. Effects units, Sampler, VariOS 8 and VariOS 303 as a VST plug in. What do you think Jim and Roland Clan?