What should the VC-3 be?

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Jim Stout
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What should the VC-3 be?

Post by Jim Stout »

Ok Tribe, You guys are the core V-synth users and I would like to hear what you have to say about a VC-3 and what you would want it to be.

I don't know for sure if Japan has any thing in the works right now but, if they don't.... maybe we can give them a few ideas.

Let me hear from you tribe.

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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

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Something modular. Kinda like reaktor or synth edit or along the lines of the nord g2. If not that, than FM or user wav capable granular, FM or wave table. It would be really nice to be able to have an extensive set of envelopes were people could draw in their filter sweeps, crazy lfo's and waveforms (kinda like NI absynth or cakewalk rapture)- Just please no more reissued vintage stuff shoved into a card- I'm really sick of roland with the same frikken product being housed into new boxes or cards- it's getting stale as can be- I would really like to see something new that could take advantage of the keyboard!!!!!!!!!! Come on roland don't be lazy with this!

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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

Post by Septimo »

Hello Jim...

I think the next card should be a XV-5080 with all SR-JV 80 cards included...... I know that's a long shot, but it's an Idea nonetheless.:-) It should'nt be too much of a long shot, since we already have a D 50,,,Heck, why dont they just keep making vintage synths in v card form? VC3, VC4, 5,6 Etc. Just my thoughts.

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I agree with Septimo

Post by RAMMANR88 »

Hello Jim...

I think the next card should be a XV-5080 with all SR-JV 80 cards included also.


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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

Post by robinez »

for me the vc3 should be definitly an emulation of the jupiter 8 with the same emulation quality as the d50.

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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

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I think a really phatt Jupiter/Juno emulation would be great, although I would personally prefer something original, like maybe physical modeling (but not V-Accordeon please!!! ;-)).
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vc 3

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im going with anti pulse:
please no more emulation of some old fashnoid synthesis.
it must be worth to switch from my v-synth, stuff like d-50, is it definitely not! jan
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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

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The VC3 should be an emulation of the new big synthesizer Roland is now working on (are they?), so we have him first!
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What should the V3 be?

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It should be some form of Resynthesis or Granular Synthesis something a bit more modern, or what a bout a good organ / electric piano card?

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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

Post by Hugo »

I also think it's time to move on and don't do yet another emulation of yesteryear.
There is one area the V-Synth is lacking for me, and that's in the effect departement. There are no extraordinary effects on offer, there are too few to choose from, and only 1 mfx block....

I know I speak for most of us here regarding the wish for more effects, but for me this is top priority.
Make the vc-3 an effects card with strange and experimental effects. After all; this is a sound designers tool, why would I want to turn it into something conventional? :)
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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

Post by soundman »

Hello,

Some good ideas here. The wavetable or granular idea sounds excellent, even the XV.
Also, roland has a new SRX 12 Classic EP's expansion board.
Whats noteworthy is that the ep and clav samples were recorded in high-definition at 24-bit/192khz.
Being that the V-Synth's d/a converters will play back at 24/96 (from the digital out), what better engine to show off the high-def sounds than the V's? The code is already there, they'd just have to implement it on a card. In addition, it would also be an important "staple sound" resource for those who can't afford (or don't require) a V-Synth AND a Fantom X.
Roland may do well by playing to the strength of the V, which I believe is the sample-based stuff, whether the hackable stuff you get from the V's internal engine, wavetable, or granular, additive, or multisampled from a card.
I frankly am not that excited about most VA approximations of analog gear. By itself it sounds ok, but when you actually
use it next to the real thing, the difference is obvious.
I believe that simulating the JP-8 on the V's platform simply doesn't do the original much justice.
With the 2.0 update (and loss of the multisample soundsets with it), it felt like Roland began to position the V to compete more closely with the likes of the Alesis Ion, Access Virus VA
sound. This may not be the most optimal use of the V, as those who like VA tend to use a dedicated VA synth. That is, they're more likely to buy a Nord, Virus, or Ion than to buy a V for that type of application.
Again, play to the strength of the product.


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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

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Yeah- I feel the d-50 was easy to do for them cause all they had to do was transplant the old code and make it fit to need. But as far as emulation of old analog subtractive synths- we can already do that without a card- in order to get anywhere near the oscillators in the jupiter 8 had, they would have to go into circuit emulation like alot of other guys are doing and I don't think that It would be too much better than what we can currently do with the card. Effects would be great- something like convolutions or resynthesis. I want more sound designing capabilities!!!

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What should the V3 be?

Post by gvance »

What about some software like V Producer? I have also got the Varios, running V Producer, wicked editting tool, how about adapting it for the V Synth? And have more than 6 tracks too!!! Shouldn't be too hard.

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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

Post by hi-tech »

I'm with the others who are voting for something NEW as well, gearing towards even more creative sound designing that competitors (software, hardware) arent really offering, something to justify the value of the V over other 'similar' gear even moreso.

No more emulation of old synths, new sounds are what its about these days, sonic identity. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a card like this as opposed to just another emulation.

This probably would also need have a way to acess card/external memory storage with it, like connect memory card via a usb card reader, usb drive, or to PC via USB for storage of patches, etc... since the onboard memory is so limited.
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Re: What should the VC-3 be?

Post by b3keys »

I would love to see a best of Jupiter/Juno soundbank in VC-3
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