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Fantom Xa pricedrop when Juno-G is out?

Posted: 19:21, 7 June 2006
by Oscar
Do you think that the price is going to drop further down when Juno-G is released?

Buy now or Wait?

Re: Fantom Xa pricedrop when Juno-G is out?

Posted: 20:05, 7 June 2006
by cuborg
sure it will, why do you think they delaying juno-g release?
to sell more Xa at full price. Also I think X6 will fell too, its too expensive to what it presents.

Re: Fantom Xa pricedrop when Juno-G is out?

Posted: 21:29, 7 June 2006
by Diametro
The reason for the Juno-G delay, I read here, is that the motherboards had to be sent back to the factory.

I'm not so sure the X series will drop in price. They occupy a specific niche in the workstation market (i.e. high-quality, no compromises synth/workstation with a great piano and loads of sounds and those wonderful pads).

I don't think you'll see any action until the Motif ES drops in price.

If anything, I think Roland will discontinue the X and come out with a new model. But I don't see that happening any time soon ...

In general, I think this is a period of relative stasis for the hardware synth realm ... Softsynths have introduced too much uncertainty into the market ...

That's why you're seeing more low-priced versions of existing hardware (Mo, TR, Juno-G) and way less high-end stuff (Oasys) costing mucho R&D $$$.

I think the Xa will stay relatively in step with the price of the Juno-G because they are not the same machine (the Xa doesn't have audio tracks; the G doesn't have real sampling)... features gained on one are lost on the other. But they're both cut from the same cloth.

Re: Fantom Xa pricedrop when Juno-G is out?

Posted: 21:29, 7 June 2006
by Diametro
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Re: Fantom Xa pricedrop when Juno-G is out?

Posted: 22:02, 7 June 2006
by The Box Drone
The Xa's price already recently dropped by about $200-300, so I don't think it will be dropping again anytime soon.

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"Real musicans don't need expensive equipment to create... a true artist will make music with anything that is around them." ~ Mom

Pearls of wisdom, no mistake, but I bought a Fantom-Xa anyways ;)

Re: Fantom Xa pricedrop when Juno-G is out?

Posted: 22:18, 7 June 2006
by google
I'm probably going to get the x pretty soon. Do you think this is a wise decision? or should I just wait for the new one?

...I will have a fantom x soon enough...

Re: Fantom Xa pricedrop when Juno-G is out?

Posted: 23:06, 7 June 2006
by Diametro
You'll be waiting a long time for a successor to the Fantom X ... the soonest an announcement would be made is at Winter NAMM 2007 ... and that's the announcement followed by actually delivering on the product ... that's AT LEAST a year from now ...

Since the X probably represents the pinnacle of what Roland is going to do with the Fantom series, a successor would probably involve a lot of engineering, testing, etc.

Meanwhile, I think combined sales of the Fantom X, Xa and Juno-G, when it finally gets here (bad move on Roland's part businesswise), will be healthy for Roland.

Why rush things when the competition isn't either? Yamaha and Korg are all in lock-step with each other.

However, keep in mind that the worse shape Roland's synth division is in, the less chance and greater delay in an X successor -- unless they decide to rush the product through to generate sales and that's never a good thing for the product.

(BTW, I have no idea about Roland's finances. I'm just posing a Devil's advocate scenario that presages a post-Fantom X machine.)

Long story short: get the X.

Roland's strategy of releasing good-quality but cutdown versions of the X, IMO, only bolster its desirability as long as the current synth scene doesn't shift too radically.

(Like Alesis really coming out with a Fantom X killer with a solid OS, killer ROM sounds and piano, color screen and pads. The Fusion is a deeper synth in many ways than the Fantom X, but also a much, much lesser synth in ways that are perhaps more important.)