MAC V.S CUSTOMIZED COMPUTER

[lord Toranaga]

you guys are arguing hard over personal preferences.

take it easy

it is just some buzzy boxes

Peace & Love,
Lord Toranaga

[Artemiy]

it is just some buzzy boxes

And that's my point! My iMac is more silent than a whisper. Go check yourself. Having a silent PC requires a lot of investment in cooling, and that takes up space. Plus my whole computer sits in the LCD. Ha.

[nsheldon]

Well, there certainly seems to be a lot of emotion associated with this old but revived thread. Glad to see forum participation. Let's not forget the reason, as musicians, why we use computers... to create, share, and perform music. It doesn't really matter what hardware or software you use if you can accomplish those goals to your satisfaction. The rest is personal (and perhaps economic) preference.

Regards,

Nathan Sheldon
http://www.nathansheldon.com/

[bassman]

Well said, Nathan. . .

I'm a PC guy (26+ years working for IBM) who's next purchase will be a MacBook Pro. I will use both a PC and the Mac to get the music done. I see them as being 'complementary', not 'opposing forces'.

These types of threads are entertaining because of the interest generated. I'm always kept honest by this memory. . . . . In 1978 I saw Jaco Pastorius playing with the group Weather Report in Manchester, England. I had always wanted an Alembic bass, just couldn't afford it at the time. I had swore that I wouldn't buy another Fender because they were crap, didn't compare with Alembic, and on and on. Well, Jaco was playing a older beat up Fender bass that had the frets lifted out. If you know Jaco's playing at all, I don't have to say a word about what I witnessed. The man was truly the world's greatest electric bassist.

The point is that Jaco could have taken any bass in the world and kicked ass, as he did. I left the concert wanting to sell every bass I owned and go do something else. I recovered about 3 days later and was truly inspired by the experience. I knew then that it wasn't the tool, it was the fire within, and started practicing my butt off.

It's a matter of opinion if it did me any good!


Bassman

[Septimo]

How can you guys actually think any one machine is better than another???? This is the dumbest thread ever. especially among 'intelectuals'..My freind who has a 24" LCD iMac has no clue of what he is doing, and I'm constantly helping him out..He bought it on word of mouth that macs are better for music, which has to be the biggest amount of crap I've ever heard. He also is the type of person who buys high brand-name cloths and shoes, cus certain rappers wear them...in other words a trend follower! It's the same type of thinking that most MPC users have, that no other machine can come close! This is funny to me and sad at the same time...in the past year or so that he's had his Mac, nothing has come out of it, and the main purpose for him buying it was for music, and the least thing tha mac does at his place today is music. But that at least is/was the intention. Me on the other hand have done numerous projects out of my PC laptop without a hitch and I still havenot encountered any problems or freeze lockups or do I complain of exsesive noise! Maybe it's luck or maybe it's cus I know what I'm doing.

My point is that no matter what system or intrument you have, If you're gonna make crap it's gonna be crap on anything you have, and if it's gonna be good it'll come out good an any machine you have as well. Depends on who YOU are. It doesn't matter what brand they are in the end they only obey your command. I'd expect you guys to know this by now instead of arguing over "My Mac whoops your PC" and "My PC runs circles around your MAC"...No disrespect on who ever fits this shoe, but this is stupidity at it's highest peak!

Septimo has spoken....

Septimo ,'^)
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MV-8800!!!!!!!!!!

[eltonafrodziac]

i have a PC on which i installed windows xp when it was released in 2001 also a toshiba celeron 550Mhz with Xp. I have never re formatted and reinstalled windows ever. except for adding the occational hardware upgrade (soundcard etc.) and software installation (Windows and driver updates etc.) . My desktop uses an audiotrak 8in 8out card and 4 SCSI 15000 rpm 250GB HDD. one 80GB IDE for system files and software installation. On my desktop i run sonar 3 on my laptop sonar 1.3 and reason 2.5 on both as well as Adobe audition 2 and various plugins and softsynths. I use many sound modules and synths/samplers so i dont depend on soft synths. On my laptop i once used 16 audio tracks, 3 inserts fx per track and 2 send fx for master. no jitter or any dropouts whatsoever (And that is sonar 1.3)

I have had nothing but happiness and bliss. I have recorded 4 commercially released Cd's on them. Even music for radio and tv ads. Never had any problems,

My secret? Use your Studio PC as a Studio PC. Forget Games, Internet, even doing your day to day office work on it. You cannot use your lamborghini to move your furniture or take your family to dinner in your truck. Uninstall all plugins you dont intend to use. Research, and use only the ones you need to get the job done. If you are serious about your job, be serious about your tools.

I have now just purchased a new machine. AMD dual core 6000+, 4gb 667 ram, and 4 SATA 300gb HDD, Running vista ultimate, Sonar 6, Reason 3.0 and again adobe audition. This time i also added fruity loops 7, bfd and MOTU ethno instruments. I assembled the PC myself and purchased the parts for... 1000 us dollars. It is liquid cooled so its quiet as a mouse. Not 64bit yet, but will as soon as more support becomes availble. a yamaha 01x controller etc. So far...it is blazing!!!!!!!! faster and more powerfull than anything i have ever used. yet to experience crashes and hickups. Installation was a breeze.

My mate has a mac. G4 running Pro tools. I love it! it looks nice and is really quiet. but he has a problem. he has a digi001 and os9. wants to upgrade to osx for new protools but cant as OSX does not support digi001. So now he has to go and buy new soundcard. It is this kind of hickups that a commercial studio just cannot afford. And its the only thing that puts me off MAC. other than that...tools are tools, it is only what YOU can make them do, that makes the difference.

My advice...buy what you can afford. let it make money for you and then upgrade as you go along.

hope it helps and i'm not too late.

Ok!!!!!....Now i have all the equipment....if i can just learn to play them.

[thunderkyss]

It was actually Artemio who turned me on to .ogg..... & open source in general.


NOw, I feel betrayed.


He's sleeping with the enemy.

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[Artemiy]

Don't worry thunderkyss!

- OGG *is* much better than MP3, MP3 kills the sound.
- Mac OS X uses lots and lots of Open Source technologies
- I still use several Open Source programs (like Inkscape)